Re: [Asrg] RE: ASRG IPR policy (was RE: US Spam patents: Partial list)

[Yakov Shafranovich <[e-mail]>]

I added the policy to the IPR document at:

http://www.solidmatrix.com/research/asrg/asrg-ipr.html

At 06:36 AM 6/13/2003 -1000, Peter Kay wrote:

>This is good. Are you going to post it somewhere permanent?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Judge [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:46 PM
> > To: 'Yakov Shafranovich'; Peter Kay; '[e-mail]'
> > Subject: ASRG IPR policy (was RE: US Spam patents: Partial list)
> >
> >
> >
> > We have decided to adopt the following IPR policy for the
> > ASRG. It is based on the IETF's IPR policy as outlined in RFC 2026.
> >
> >
> > "By submission of a contribution, each person actually submitting the
> >    contribution is deemed to agree to the following terms and
> > conditions
> >    on his own behalf, on behalf of the organization (if any) he
> >    represents and on behalf of the owners of any propriety
> > rights in the
> >    contribution..  Where a submission identifies contributors in
> >    addition to the contributor(s) who provide the actual
> > submission, the
> >    actual submitter(s) represent that each other named contributor was
> >    made aware of and agreed to accept the same terms and conditions on
> >    his own behalf, on behalf of any organization he may represent and
> >    any known owner of any proprietary rights in the contribution.
> >
> > The contributor represents that he has disclosed the existence of
> >       any proprietary or intellectual property rights in the
> >       contribution that are reasonably and personally known to the
> >       contributor.  The contributor does not represent that he
> >       personally knows of all potentially pertinent proprietary and
> >       intellectual property rights owned or claimed by the
> > organization
> >       he represents (if any) or third parties."
> >
> > This means that the person submitting a proposal is
> > responsible for stating any relevant IPR that he knows about
> > even if he is not the holder of the rights. This does allow
> > for other members to notify a contributor about relevant IPR
> > after the initial submission. The contributor should then
> > disclose this information in revisions of the contribution.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yakov Shafranovich [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:42 PM
> > > To: Peter Kay; [e-mail]
> > > Subject: RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:32 AM 6/12/2003 -1000, Peter Kay wrote:
> > >
> > > >IMHO: as an a holder of a anti-spam patent pending, I think
> > > its best to
> > > >let IPR holders approach us. Otherwise you put yourself in the
> > > >unenviable position of "authority" on patents. If you just
> > > say "these
> > > >are the IPR claims that have been submitted to us" that
> > > makes it clean
> > > >and simple, not to mention easy to maintain.
> > >
> > > In some cases this would not be true. Take MailBlocks, for
> > > example - they
> > > are claiming patents on all C/R systems. They have not
> > > approached, and
> > > since their IP is of very general nature, thus we must
> > > approach them to
> > > solicit a submission of IPR claims which is what I have done.
> > > Otherwise, we
> > > might be working on a standard only to find out that it is
> > > patented. As for
> > > the patents that are covering every nook and cranny of
> > > anti-spam, I am
> > > agreeing with you. It would be an impossible task to catalog
> > > all patents in
> > > the world.
> > >
> > > Therefore, I am suggesting that we should have the following
> > > policy: 1. Solicit input from IP holders on very broad
> > > business methods patents
> > > such as the MailBlocks patents.
> > > 2. Request that all members of the group that have IP, submit
> > > information
> > > about it.
> > > 3. Accept submissions from IPR claimants that are not part of
> > > the group as
> > > they send them.
> > >
> > > P.S. BTW, Peter, it would probably be prudent that you let us
> > > know some
> > > details on your IP. Feel free to use the template
> > > (http://www.solidmatrix.com/research/asrg/asrg-ipr.html).
> > >
> > > Yakov
> > >
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