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RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list

"Peter Kay" <peter@titankey.com> Fri, 13 June 2003 08:07 UTC

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:29:20 -1000
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I think your suggestion is a very good and balanced one. And I'm going
to fully disclose our IPR.

Peter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yakov Shafranovich [mailto:research@solidmatrix.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:01 AM
> To: Peter Kay; Asrg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Asrg] US Spam patents: Partial list
> 
> 
> At 06:32 AM 6/12/2003 -1000, Peter Kay wrote:
> 
> >IMHO: as an a holder of a anti-spam patent pending, I think 
> its best to 
> >let IPR holders approach us. Otherwise you put yourself in the 
> >unenviable position of "authority" on patents. If you just 
> say "these 
> >are the IPR claims that have been submitted to us" that 
> makes it clean 
> >and simple, not to mention easy to maintain.
> 
> In some cases this would not be true. Take MailBlocks, for 
> example - they 
> are claiming patents on all C/R systems. They have not 
> approached, and 
> since their IP is of very general nature, thus we must 
> approach them to 
> solicit a submission of IPR claims which is what I have done. 
> Otherwise, we 
> might be working on a standard only to find out that it is 
> patented. As for 
> the patents that are covering every nook and cranny of 
> anti-spam, I am 
> agreeing with you. It would be an impossible task to catalog 
> all patents in 
> the world.
> 
> Therefore, I am suggesting that we should have the following 
> policy: 1. Solicit input from IP holders on very broad 
> business methods patents 
> such as the MailBlocks patents.
> 2. Request that all members of the group that have IP, submit 
> information 
> about it.
> 3. Accept submissions from IPR claimants that are not part of 
> the group as 
> they send them.
> 
> P.S. BTW, Peter, it would probably be prudent that you let us 
> know some 
> details on your IP. Feel free to use the template 
> (http://www.solidmatrix.com/research/asrg/asrg-ipr.html).
> 
> Yakov
> 
> 
> 
> 


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