Re. ATM Comes and Goes
Sam Ghandchi <samg@netcom.com> Fri, 17 May 1996 23:50 UTC
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From: Sam Ghandchi <samg@netcom.com>
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Subject: Re. ATM Comes and Goes
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Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 16:37:45 -0700
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Hi, I think what is happening to ATM is that it is cart before the horse. In networking it is usual that before even a protocol is out of draft form, there are even products based on the secondary outcome of the implementation of the protocol developed. I think many of us remember all the products that were based on the primary and secondary and ... outcomes of OSI, but in telephony, people had telephone system a long time before having local intercoms or voicemail. I think the whole notion of creating ATM LAN or ATM WAN is what has messed up ATM. I think ATM should have focussed on a new voice/video/data infrastructure, the thing that has been commercialized by the term Information Highway. Unfortunately instead, there has been all kinds of carts before horses that now has ended in the current fiasco and despair in the ATM community, which is only comparable to what happened at the end of OSI carts-before-horse protocols and products ... I still think that ATM network infrastructure is a viable infrastructure and will have to be built and it is equivalent to the worldwide telephone system which took a long time to be built. I do not know in the absence of a giant AT&T in our times, who will take this task and whether it will be a cableco or a telco or what, but I do not think that any other alternative technologies can even remotely be comparable for such a basic infrastructe. But I think one good result of all the ATM works has been that networking today after the first upsurge of ATM is different from the past. Today's world of networking is the world of SWITCHED NETWORKS, whether LAN or WAN. This is a new thing. Nobody thought that switching would become so prevalent in Ethernet, Token Ring ... networks. I think ATM has a headstart in recognizing that the INTEROPERABILITY is central to success once switching architecture is chosen for basic network structures. What I think this means in the real world is that an UNIVERSAL SWITCH should easily sense the network technology (Ethernet, Token Ring, ATM, FDDI, Fiber Channel, Frame Relay, ISDN, etc.). In other words, I think the next generation of switches should be multi-network technology switches rather than separate interfaces for ATM or Ethernet or Token Ring .... Just like the movement from single-protocol routers to multiprotocol routers. I think in such a switching world of networking, it would not matter what the world-wide connectivity infrastructure is. But as I said I think that fabric will be ATM, as I am not convinced any other technology to be able to offer better scalability for such a worldwide infrastructure. My $.03: -) Best Regards, - Sam -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Sam Ghandchi samg@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
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