Re: syntax for bilingual page

[Erik Wilde <[e-mail]>]

hello yves.

Yves Dorfsman wrote:
>> you're right that there only can be one title, which is bad for
>> internationalization, but makes life easier for consumers. as
>> unfortunate as it is, it's not going to change (i guess),
> Why?
> Why couldn't we extend / update the atom format to support 
> internationalization ?

we could, but i would be surprised if that would get enough people 
behind it to support it. it would break atom 1.0, and there seems to be 
little desire to do that. the occurrence indicators for the metadata 
elements on both the feed and the entry level in atom look fairly random 
(at least that's my personal opinion), and it probably would have been 
better to not create them this way. but that's what we have now, and i 
don't see it changing anytime soon.

>> so you will
>> just have to make peace with this design. maybe use one feed per
>> language? not great, but correct and probably a pattern you'll see in
>> many places...
> So do you suggest to use the same <id> for both entries then?

you could certainly used localized feeds and from those point to 
internationalized entry resources. but then you have to think about what 
to do if the feed reader does not specify a language preference in HTTP 
when GETting the entry, so maybe instead of using HTTP language 
negotiation, it might be more robust to link to the entry URIs with the 
language preference encoded in a query parameter, and let the entry 
service accept both query parameter language preferences and HTTP 
language negotiation.

for general advice on how to create and manage entry IDs, you might want 
to look at http://diveintomark.org/archives/2004/05/28/howto-atom-id

kind regards,

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