Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model document
"Charles E. Perkins" <charles.perkins@earthlink.net> Fri, 29 January 2010 20:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model document
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Hello Teco, On 1/29/2010 10:04 AM, Teco Boot wrote: > >>> My requirement is that L3 communication between nodes, that have L2 >>> connectivity, must be possible in all conditions, including conditions >>> with a non-operational MANET protocol. >>> >>> >> I don't see that the addressing model prevents any such L3 >> communication. >> > How are packets forwarded? > The destination address (which is direct L2 neighbor in this case) > needs to be found in a forwarding table, normally the routing table. > Neighbor cache could be used also. > How to get this info in such a table? > Node A broadcasts a "Hello" message. Node B hears it, and puts node A in its forwarding table. The nodes may take subsequent actions to verify bidirectionality, exchange other table entries, etc. > >>> And the text on link locals does not describe how IPv6 works. LLs are >>> used in MANETs for multiple purposes. We can't without. >>> >>> >> This isn't true. You can build MANETs without using link-local at all >> in any fashion. >> >> I'm not saying you have to ignore link-local. >> > If LLs are configured, they are used for L2 address resolving. > Also for MANET protocols, if destination address is LL mcast. > O.K. > One can think of updating the IPv6 RFCs. I'll stay on current > practice. > Me, too. Current practice includes running AODV and OLSR and DYMO. One should think of updating the IPv6 RFCs, since the link-local constructions contained therein were written _explicitly_ in disregard of the needs for wireless links of the sort familiar to practitioners in this group. I was there. I remember very well the meeting in Boston where this happened. Regards, Charlie P.
- [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model docume… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins