Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF charter proposal.
Mark Townsley <townsley@cisco.com> Mon, 05 July 2010 10:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF charter proposal.
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On 7/5/10 11:23 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: > I'm going to disagree with that, because there are fundamentally > different requirements - not all MANETs are the same. Is there a naming convention for all the different MANET types? How do you tell them apart? > The > proposed solution in the current draft charter is a single > DHCP server. Putting aside the technical issues in getting that > to work that Charlie and others have pointed out, let's suppose > it can be made to work. But there are several of us whose areas > of interest, and scenarios within that area of interest, would > regard such a single point of failure (or takeover) as not a good > solution. Of course just having a decentralised solution would > not necessarily be sufficient either, hence the comments I've > made about security issues up front. I don't yet know if a > solution that does all I would want it to do exists. > > As for how to choose, if one solution is unacceptable, then the > network would clearly be using the other. More generally it's > far from the only administratively configured issue in a MANET > - which routing protocol for example (which also applies in the > fixed Internet, nothing new there). I think of autoconfig as being part of a very basic bootstrapping procedure. If any one thing needs to be ubiquitous, it's this. After the device has reached a certain level of configuration and connectivity, it is more possible to negotiate options and report on mismatches. On the other hand, if basic bootstrapping fails, then all you may have to troubleshoot with is a dead device. > > But perhaps, rather than jumping straight in with one, or even > two, approaches, we need people to indicate what they actually > want/need, and whether the proposal in the draft charter, or > an alternative (the latter having the disadvantage of being > quite vague at this point) would give them what they need. Certainly putting a scope around that which must be automatically configured and that which may not would be helpful here. - Mark
- [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF ch… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… HyungJin Lim
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Emmanuel Baccelli
- [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for comments t… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Holtzer, A.C.G. (Arjen)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Cedric Adjih
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DHCP and AUTOCONF (was: Call for c… Alexandru Petrescu