Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF charter proposal.
Teco Boot <teco@inf-net.nl> Sat, 03 July 2010 07:57 UTC
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Easy to invent the automatic mechanism: Only need an address? Use ND. Need more? use ND for getting address, find central server, get more. Teco. Op 2 jul 2010, om 20:59 heeft Mark Townsley het volgende geschreven: > > My kneejerk reaction to this is that walking in with the goal of having > more than one way to autoconfigure a manet is a bad idea. > > If we end up with two ways to autoconfigure, then we will have to invent > an automatic mechanism on top to choose which autoconfiguration > mechanism to use. That doesn't help anyone. In absence of knowledgeable > human configuration, hard choices that narrow functional options > typically far outweigh the potential benefits of one option vs. the > other. So, even if you can prove that A is better than B, B is still > better than A+B. > > Let's strive for making a choice, at least within the MANET domain. > > - Mark > > > On 7/2/10 3:21 PM, Holtzer, A.C.G. (Arjen) wrote: >> Hello autoconfers, >> >> I support this "two-case"-approach, Christopher mentions: so >> standardizing one centralized and one decentralized solution (or one >> stateful and one stateless solution, just like in the current IPv6 >> standards). I agree that the solution should make use of existing >> protocols as much as possible (e.g. DHCP, ND, ...), but my choice would >> be not to state in the charter that DHCP must be used in all solutions >> coming out of the WG. >> >> draft-bernardos-manet-autoconf-survey-05 shows there are already many >> proposals existing, making it a good starting point for going into >> solution space. Actually even more than just a starting point since many >> of the proposals have already been around for a while. So I support this >> doc. >> >> Best regards, >> Arjen >> >>> >>> If Charlie can find a few like-minded people to work on that, >>> why not add this as a parallel activity? The rationale of why >>> two cases should be straightforward to make, they are almost >>> chalk and cheese in e.g. centralised versus non-centralised. >>> This is actually added safety to the group producing >>> something, as if one succeeds and the other fails, that's still good. >>> >>> >> This e-mail and its contents are subject to the DISCLAIMER at http://www.tno.nl/disclaimer/email.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Autoconf mailing list >> Autoconf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf >> > > _______________________________________________ > Autoconf mailing list > Autoconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf
- [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF ch… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… HyungJin Lim
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Emmanuel Baccelli
- [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for comments t… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Security (Was: Re: Call for commen… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Holtzer, A.C.G. (Arjen)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Mark Townsley
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Cedric Adjih
- Re: [Autoconf] Call for comments to a new AUTOCON… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] DHCP and AUTOCONF (was: Call for c… Alexandru Petrescu