Re: [Autoconf] RFC 5889 (Was: Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF charter proposal)

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 22 July 2010 11:36 UTC

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Le 22/07/2010 11:58, Thomas Heide Clausen a écrit :
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:56 , Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>
>> Le 22/07/2010 11:52, Thomas Heide Clausen a écrit :
>>>
>>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:50 , Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 21/07/2010 15:02, Jari Arkko a écrit :
>>>>> I too would be fine with a title change to "Router Addressing
>>>>> Model in Ad Hoc Networks" or even "*A* Router Addressing
>>>>> Model in Ad Hoc Networks"...
>>>>
>>>> I disagree.  There are Ad-Hoc Networks which don't use that
>>>> Addressing Model.
>>>>
>>>> The way link-local addresses are formed is specifically to
>>>> work in ad-hoc unplanned networks... or, this draft
>>>> discourages them.
>>>
>>> Alex, I think you still don't capture that we're talking about
>>> multi-hop networks here.
>>
>> Thomas - by multi-hop networks I mean: LFN--MR--MR--LFN is a
>> multi-hop network using link-local addresses exclusively between
>> MRs.
>>
>
> I have no idea what LFN-MR-MR-LFN is.

Are you interested to learn?  The LFN--MR--MR--LFN topology and its
multi-hop network nature is not strange to a co-Chair.

There is a draft and I would like to present it during the next WG
meeting - that could show that I do capture that we talk about multi-hop
networks.

> This working group is concerned with configuring  MANET routers,
> specifically the interfaces hereof over which MANET routing
> protocols operate.

Hmmm... this is something you would wish, right?  Because the current
Charter proposal stays "...independent on operation of any specific
MANET routing protocol"...

I currently agree with that way of using the word MANET in the current
Charter proposal; but I'd suggest to remove "MANET" entirely from
the Charter proposal, use instead agreed words.

Alex