Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model document
"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Fri, 29 January 2010 18:10 UTC
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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:10:28 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model document
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> -----Original Message----- > From: autoconf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:autoconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Teco Boot > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:05 AM > To: 'Charles E. Perkins' > Cc: autoconf@ietf.org; 'Thomas Heide Clausen' > Subject: Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model document > > Hi Charlie, > > >> I am quite uncomfortable with a large drawback of the proposed > >> addressing model, which makes it unacceptable for the deployed MANETs > >> I am involved in. > >> My requirement is that L3 communication between nodes, that have L2 > >> connectivity, must be possible in all conditions, including conditions > >> with a non-operational MANET protocol. > >> > > > >I don't see that the addressing model prevents any such L3 > >communication. > > How are packets forwarded? > The destination address (which is direct L2 neighbor in this case) > needs to be found in a forwarding table, normally the routing table. > Neighbor cache could be used also. > How to get this info in such a table? > > > >> And the text on link locals does not describe how IPv6 works. LLs are > >> used in MANETs for multiple purposes. We can't without. > >> > > > >This isn't true. You can build MANETs without using link-local at all > >in any fashion. > > > >I'm not saying you have to ignore link-local. > > If LLs are configured, they are used for L2 address resolving. > Also for MANET protocols, if destination address is LL mcast. > One can think of updating the IPv6 RFCs. I'll stay on current > practice. I believe OSPFv3 for one is going to need link-locals when it is used as a MANET routing protocol. (That is not to say that OSPFv3 can only carry IPv6 routes; it can also use Address Family extensions to carry IPv4 routes.) Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com > Regards, Teco > > > _______________________________________________ > Autoconf mailing list > Autoconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/autoconf
- [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model docume… Emmanuel Baccelli
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Carlos Jesús Bernardos Cano
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Teco Boot
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Updated ad hoc addressing model do… Charles E. Perkins