Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-02.txt
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 17 February 2010 18:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-addr-model-02.txt
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Charles - I must say thank you for the reply about motivating the absence of multicast in the autoconf addressing model because of its ressemblance to broadcast, lack of tools to build trees and dedicated suitability to non-MANET environments. I will excuse myself for not replying. I don't because this group is not friendly. Later, when we wonder who owes an answer to whom - it'll be simpler :-) Alex Le 17/02/2010 19:23, Charles E. Perkins a écrit : > > Hello Alex, > > On 2/16/2010 12:20 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: >> Le 16/02/2010 21:01, Jari Arkko a écrit : >>> Great. Lets move this doc forward! >> >> YEs, let's move this forward and add multicast discussion to it >> without which autoconf can't fly. > > What if we find that the requirements for a mobile ad hoc network do > not enable us to rely on a typical autoconfiguration protocol? > > >> Multicast is what typical autoconfiguration protocols use today >> without which they'd never work. > > This isn't true. In every case I am aware of, we could have designed > for pure broadcast operation. > > But of course you might just say that broadcast is a special case of > multicast. In that case, your argument completely loses its apparent > force anyway. > > >> Multicast is what IPv6 got builtin precisely for the reason of >> autoconfing. > > Nothing wrong with using the tools available to perform the function > for which they were built in the systems where they can be expected > to work. > >> This draft being silent about multicast spells it's not autoconf, >> IMHO. > > Well, I strongly disagree, especially since your arguments as I > understand them are fatally flawed. > > However, I'd be happy to have a non-tree-based local multicast group > consisting of all members within range of a node. There's absolutely > zero multicast protocol required to maintain membership in this > group, conveniently. > > I would not insist to have that group definition appear in the > addr-model draft. > > > Regards, Charlie P. > >
- [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-adhoc-… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Ryuji Wakikawa
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Ryuji Wakikawa
- [Autoconf] Licensing scheme for draft-ietf-autoco… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Licensing scheme for draft-ietf-au… Zach Shelby
- Re: [Autoconf] Licensing scheme for draft-ietf-au… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Licensing scheme for draft-ietf-au… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [Autoconf] Licensing scheme for draft-ietf-au… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [Autoconf] Licensing scheme for draft-ietf-au… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Henning Rogge
- Re: [Autoconf] Conclusion: draft-ietf-autoconf-ad… Alexandru Petrescu