Re: [Autoconf] RFC 5889 (Was: Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF charter proposal)

"Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <Chris.Dearlove@baesystems.com> Fri, 23 July 2010 08:59 UTC

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From: "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <Chris.Dearlove@baesystems.com>
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] RFC 5889 (Was: Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF charter proposal)
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That's because you weren't running a MANET. 

I'm going to stop spending time on this discussion now.

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Christopher Dearlove
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Subject: Re: [Autoconf] RFC 5889 (Was: Call for comments to a new AUTOCONF charter proposal)


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Le 23/07/2010 10:42, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) a écrit :
> If you are using the addresses even in NHDP, or even in a
> single neighbour cut-done NHDP that has link bidirectionality
> checking then they are so visible.

Hmmm... I have just tried two WiFi networks nearby (ad-hoc more, ha!) 
with different ESSIDs and channels and the link-locally addressed 
messages from one to another are invisible on Wireshark (from one link 
to another).

Besides, in some cases even in Access Point mode the messages from STA 
to BS are invisible between STAs on same ESSID, but that's particular.

Any other experience enlightening.

Alex

And the point of this work
> is to create addresses that are so usable.


>
> Whether the visibility matters can be argued. That the visibility
> occurs is not the case.
>




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