Re: [AVT] Working group last call: draft-ietf-avt-rtp-uemclip-02.txt
Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Mon, 21 January 2008 21:57 UTC
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From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
Subject: Re: [AVT] Working group last call: draft-ietf-avt-rtp-uemclip-02.txt
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:57:14 +0000
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Yusuke, Thank you for your response. Some comments inline - I've deleted the points on which we seem to have reached agreement. On 15 Jan 2008, at 16:21, yusuke hiwasaki wrote: > At Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:39:12 +0000, Colin Perkins wrote: ... >> Section 3.3.1: What is the purpose of the ID field? It would seem to >> be redundant with the RTP payload type, and so can be removed. > > This field is redundant, but it is inform the decoder that what it is > actually trying to decode a UEMCLIP bitstream. Although it may seem > redundant, authors prefer to have it as it is. Why? It just wastes bits - the RTP payload type identifies the bit stream as being UEMCLIP. >> Section 3.3.1.2: What is the purpose of the Check Bit? It would seem >> that rather than setting a bit to indicate that the payload should be >> ignored, an MCU should simply not send the packet. The resulting gap >> in the RTP sequence number space will inform the receiver of the >> missing data, and trigger packet loss concealment. > > There are cases where packet-loss may occur when arriving to an MCU, > and if the MCU is a signal mixer, the MCU might send a packet > generated by a best effort. However, this means that the packet sent > out from MCU may try to convey information of this particular location > where the packet is lost. This is why Check bits are required. > > It is also useful for upward-transcoding from G.711, where all the > information is not calculated (however, as pointed out, this may be an > unnecessary procedure, though). > > Regarding these fields, authors would like to keep those as it is. Okay, but I think you need to explain the use case further. >> Section 6.3.2: Please expand the examples to be complete, valid, SDP >> files. > > Although it might have be incomplete examples, I am not sure if there > were "invalid" examples (it would have been nice if you could point it > out), but I will surely revise the examples and hope that the updated > version is ok. Sorry - I wasn't clear. The examples are valid fragments of SDP files, but it would be desirable to make them valid complete SDP files. -- Colin Perkins http://csperkins.org/ _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
- [AVT] Working group last call: draft-ietf-avt-rtp… Colin Perkins
- [AVT] Comments on draft-ietf-avt-rtp-uemclip-02.t… SOLLAUD Aurelien RD-TECH-LAN
- Re: [AVT] Working group last call: draft-ietf-avt… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] Comments on draft-ietf-avt-rtp-uemclip-… yusuke hiwasaki
- Re: [AVT] Working group last call: draft-ietf-avt… yusuke hiwasaki
- RE: [AVT] Working group last call: draft-ietf-avt… aurelien.sollaud
- Re: [AVT] Working group last call: draft-ietf-avt… Colin Perkins