Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Thu, 29 January 2015 12:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913
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Sorry, for confusing you. I already sent another email on this. Lets go with the previous emails Held for Document Update. /Magnus On 2015-01-29 13:28, Magnus Westerlund wrote: > WG, > > Based on this discussion it appears that the conclusion was to Reject > this errata. We have ongoing document work that will address this issue, > so approving it would be to get ahead of that work. Secondly, held for > document update appears possible, but also unnecessary now that the work > actually is happening. > > So this will be requested to be rejected by the AD, unless someone > speaks up before the 13th of February. > > Cheers > > Magnus > WG chair > > On 2014-05-05 08:41, Magnus Westerlund wrote: >> On 2014-05-02 19:10, Martin Thomson wrote: >>> On 2 May 2014 01:26, Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote: >>>> 1. To any in the WG: Do you really think there is an issue of >>>> restricting STUN to 128 methods per class per existing RFC? >>> >>> This is an alternative to what I proposed, which would leave 5764 >>> alone. You need to make some allowance for this though: >>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/stun-parameters/stun-parameters.xhtml#stun-parameters-2 >>> (Note the range 0x800-0xFFF, which is currently unused) >> >> >> Yes, and from my personal position, I think it is fine to leave RFC 5764 >> alone here. The 128 methods per class should be sufficient. >> >> But I do agree that we should work to ensure that these limitations are >> reflected in STUN's IANA section. >> >>> >>>> 2. To Martin: What made you think there was an error in RFC 5764? >>> >>> This: >>> >>>> Formally this is a value overlap between what STUN could potentially use >>>> (0-63) and what DTLS can potentially use 20-63. >>> >>> I don't think that it's quite fair to say that it's a fault of STUN. >>> STUN was there first, so arguably the fault lies with RFC 5764. >> >> Agreed, but it was a decision that was discussed in the community when >> it happened. >> >>> >>> As I said, it's a minor issue. There doesn't seem to be any need for >>> the overlap, so it's probably safe to retroactively change the rules >>> for STUN method registrations. >>> >> >> I also think so. And, I think the minimal work needed here is to address >> STUN's IANA rules within the TRAM WG, not also change values in RFC >> 5764. Therefore I would like to reject this Errata. >> >> I will give everyone two weeks to think this over and object against my >> proposal to reject the errata. >> >> Cheers >> >> Magnus Westerlund >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 >> Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 >> SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance >> avt@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt >> > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 Christer Holmberg
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 Martin Thomson
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 Dale R. Worley
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Martin Thomson
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 (Errata 3913) Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 (Errata 3913) Dale R. Worley
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 (Errata 3913) Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Errata on RFC 5764 : Errata ID: 3913 Magnus Westerlund