Re: [AVTCORE] [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC

[Victor Vasiliev <[e-mail]>]

Hi Alan,

Excited to see this draft!

Since this isn't technically in scope for either avtcore, wish or quic
working groups, what would people think about making a new mailing list for
video over QUIC?

Cheers,
 Victor.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:27 AM Justin Uberti <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 1:35 PM Roberto Peon <fenix=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Seems like a good idea to me, unless there is a home that is already well
>> suited!
>>
>> -=R
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *QUIC <[e-mail]> on behalf of Luke Curley <
>> [e-mail]>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:16 PM
>> *To: *Alan Frindell <afrind=[e-mail]>
>> *Cc: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Sergio Garcia Murillo <
>> [e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "
>> [e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Kirill Pugin <[e-mail]>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Alan, thanks for publishing your protocol!
>>
>>
>>
>> Twitch has also been working on a video over QUIC protocol, albeit
>> primarily for video distribution instead of contribution. We're very
>> interested in collaborating on RUSH and producing a new standard for live
>> streaming! Would there be broader interest in forming a video over QUIC
>> working group?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 12:04 PM Alan Frindell <afrind=
>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sergio, thanks for your interest in the draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m interested in seeing a video ingest protocol standard that leverages
>> QUIC as a transport, has some partial reliability support, and is less
>> connection-oriented so that servers can go down for maintenance without
>> impacting ingest reliability or having arbitrarily long drain times.  We
>> published our RUSH draft to help kickstart the conversation but we’re open
>> to feedback and modifications if they help advance those goals.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Sergio Garcia Murillo <[e-mail]>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 9:02 AM
>> *To: *Alan Frindell <[e-mail]>
>> *Cc: *"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "
>> [e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Kirill Pugin <[e-mail]>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that the correct place for discussing it is AVTCORE as Bernard
>> has indicated, as  WISH is not chartered to implement any new media
>> protocol.
>>
>>
>>
>> The draft is very interesting and I would be willing to collaborate, what
>> is your main interest? Do you want to try to publish it as it is or would
>> you be accepting feedback and include modifications?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Sergio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El mar, 13 jul 2021 a las 17:37, Alan Frindell (<afrind=
>> [e-mail]>) escribió:
>>
>> Hi, for several years, Facebook has been using its own video ingest
>> protocol over QUIC from our apps to our infra.  While we’ve spoken about it
>> before, we just now published a draft documenting how it works:
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-kpugin-rush-00.html.
>>
>> The protocol leverages the advantages of QUIC transport, and features a
>> partially reliable mode using only QUIC v1 RST_STREAM.
>>
>> We welcome your feedback
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Alan Frindell
>>
>>
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