[AVTCORE] RTP circuit breakers practical experience feedback
Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com> Fri, 07 August 2015 14:29 UTC
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Subject: [AVTCORE] RTP circuit breakers practical experience feedback
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All, We implemented draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-10 and put it in production here at Jive. It is exposed to all kinds of traffic: intra-DC, inter-DC, SIP peer to SIP peer, and wild public Internet traffic. I obviously can't discuss traffic volume. Here are some lessons learned... - The "media timeout" circuit breaker is unusable in practice because at least one popular B2BUA implementation we routinely talk to (not going to name names) lies in its RTCP reports. In one particular instance, it sends RTCP with non-increasing maximum sequence numbers even though it is receiving the media we send it. We have found no way to work around this in general apart from fingerprinting the implementation of the remote endpoint (which we are *not* considering, for obvious reasons). - The "RTCP timeout" circuit breaker is unusable in practice because it is common to stop receiving RTCP when an RTP relay we are sending to changes its destination from an RTCP-sending receiver to a non-RTCP-sending receiver. There is no indication at the signalling level that this is happening because what happens beyond the RTP relay is invisible to us. We have found no way to work around this in general. - The "congestion" circuit breaker has never triggered. I don't really know how to interpret this: am I supposed to rejoice or is the circuit breaker simply useless in practice? In addition, the text describing the algorithm leaves much to the programmer's interpretation. I've discussed this with the authors and I expect a revision with tighter text. - We have not implemented the "media usability" circuit breaker as we were unable to find a good practical criteria for usability. I'd be surprised if anyone else did. Simon
- [AVTCORE] RTP circuit breakers practical experien… Simon Perreault
- Re: [AVTCORE] RTP circuit breakers practical expe… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] RTP circuit breakers practical expe… Simon Perreault