Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over QUIC
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 12 July 2022 19:37 UTC
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 14:36:30 -0500
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over QUIC
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Hi, Bernard, It occurs to me that me saying "I think we should adopt it NOW" at IETF 113 might not translate into a statement of support during your call for adoption now. I support adoption now. - This draft isn't finished, but it's certainly a solid place to build on, and - it's easier to get people to contribute to a draft that is under working group control, than to an individual draft that the individual can change in any way, at any time. In my mind, that's really what we're talking about. Best, Spencer On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 7:17 PM Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > The draft abstract describes itself as a minimal mapping for encapsulating > RTP and RTCP packets within QUIC. Within this scope, the document appears > to achieve that goal. A minimal mapping won't address all possibilities, > especially media and QUIC combinations being discussed in other venues, but > that seems fine to me. A simple mapping provides a migration path for RTP > applications to leverage QUIC seems of benefit. > > I raised a few issues on the draft's GitHub. None of those are blocking > for adoption but would benefit from a WG putting some thought and > implementation experience into the answers. > > I support adoption in AVTCORE. > > Cheers > Lucas > > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2022, 18:59 Bernard Aboba, <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is a Call for Adoption (CfA) of "RTP over QUIC". The draft is >> available for inspection here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-engelbart-rtp-over-quic >> >> The Github repo used to track issues is here: >> https://github.com/mengelbart/rtp-over-quic-draft >> >> The Call for Adoption will run until midnight Pacific Time on Monday, >> July 11, 2022. >> >> In response, please indicate one of the following: >> >> * I support adoption of "RTP over QUIC". >> * I object to adoption of "RTP over QUIC" due to the following open >> Issues <link to filed issues> >> >> Bernard >> For the Chairs >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance >> avt@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt >> > _______________________________________________ > Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance > avt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt >
- [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over QUIC Bernard Aboba
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Roland.Schott
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Joerg Ott
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Roland.Schott
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Joerg Ott
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Roland.Schott
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption (CfA): RTP over Q… Spencer Dawkins at IETF