Re: [AVTCORE] Francesca Palombini's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-vp9-13: (with COMMENT)
Jonathan Lennox <jonathan.lennox@8x8.com> Thu, 03 June 2021 21:35 UTC
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From: Jonathan Lennox <jonathan.lennox@8x8.com>
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Francesca Palombini's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-vp9-13: (with COMMENT)
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> On Jun 1, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Francesca Palombini via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > Francesca Palombini has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-payload-vp9-13: No Objection > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thank you for the work on this document. > > I have some non blocking questions and comments, which I hope will help improve > the document. > > Francesca > > 1. ----- > > Timestamp: The RTP timestamp indicates the time when the input frame > was sampled, at a clock rate of 90 kHz. If the input picture is > encoded with multiple layer frames, all of the frames of the > picture MUST have the same timestamp. > > FP: I think it would be useful to add a reference to RFC 3550, regarding "RTP > timestamp". Also, I find it curious that RFC 3550 is not mentioned up to the > end of section 4.1 (I would think a reference to it would be present in the > introduction) Added to both places, thanks. > 2. ----- > > Otherwise, PID MUST NOT be present. If the SS field was present > in the stream's most recent start of a keyframe (i.e., non- > flexible scalability mode is in use), then the PID MUST also be > present in every packet. > > FP: Is there any reason why this is not formulated in terms of V bit being set? > (I believe the rest of the text is consistently talking about bit being set) No, fixed. > > 3. ----- > > described by "Reference indices" below. This MUST only be set to > 1 if the I bit is also set to one; if the I bit is set to zero, > then this MUST also be set to zero and ignored by receivers. The > > FP: Why is that the it MUST only be set to 1 if I is also set to 1? I was > looking for the motivation, but could not find it. Some more text would have > been helpful to me. The Reference indices are defined as offsets from the Picture ID, so without I, there’s nothing for them to reference. I’ve added a parenthetical to clarify this. > 4. ----- > > Z: Not a reference frame for upper spatial layers. If set to 1, > indicates that frames with higher spatial layers SID+1 of the > current and following pictures do not depend on the current > > FP: I am not sure if the text it meant to say higher spatial layers than SID+1 > (inclusive?) Yes, > 5. ----- > > The field MUST be present if the I bit is equal to one. If set, > the PID field MUST contain 15 bits; otherwise, it MUST contain 7 > > FP: "If set" - I understand by the context this should be "If M is set" (how > it's written now it could be interpreted by "if the PID field is set", which > does not make sense, but better be clear) Ok. > > 6. ----- > > or 15-bit index. The PID SHOULD start on a random number, and > MUST wrap after reaching the maximum ID (0x7f or 0x7fff depending > on the index size chosen). The receiver MUST NOT assume that the > > FP: So is the intention that the PID is increased by one for each picture? Does > the order matter? The way the text is written "reaching the maximum ID" would > suggest so, but I could not find any text about that, if I have missed it > please let me know. Yes, I’ve clarified this. > > 7. ----- > > SID-1 frame of the same picture, otherwise MUST set to zero. > > FP: s/MUST set/MUST be set Ok. > > 8. ----- > > depends on. TL0PICIDX MUST be incremented when TID is equal to > 0. The index SHOULD start on a random number, and MUST restart > > FP: Does it matter by how much? If so, it should be stated. By 1, thanks, clarified. > > 9. ----- > > temporal layer ID (TID), switch up point (U), and the R reference > indices (P_DIFFs) are specified. > > FP: I couldn't find the R bit defined anywhere. I assume its meaning is "if > set, P_DIFF is present" but this should be clearly stated in the text. I think that was just a typo for “Reference indices”, fixed. > > 10. ----- > > FP: Please expand MCU, LRR on first use Expanded LRR; changed MCU to selective forwarding middlebox with a reference to RFC 7667. > 11. ----- > > Section 7. IANA > > FP: I checked the mailarchive for the subtype registration and could not find > it. I leave it to Murray to let me know if we are more lenient about subtype > requests, but I would have appreciated the registration being posted to the > media-types mailing list. Sorry about that; with my AVTCore chair hat on we’ve probably been sloppy about sending RTP-only subtypes to the media-types mailing list.
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