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From: "Roni Even (A)" <roni.even@huawei.com>
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Hi,

Some comments as individual

1. in section 10 the registration of the SDP ccfb attribute need also to in=
clude mux category


2. In section 4 it is says  "It has been shown  [I-D.ietf-rmcat-rtp-cc-feed=
back<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtcore-cc-feedback-message-05#=
ref-I-D.ietf-rmcat-rtp-cc-feedback>] that in most cases a per frame feedbac=
k is a reasonable assumption on how frequent the RTCP feedback messages can=
 be transmitted." later in the section it talks about 50-200msec and say th=
at a value in this range need to be negotiated.  Looking at rmcat-rtp-cc-fe=
edback I got the impression that a report per frame is recommended.



3. A nit - please expand RTS at first occurrence, it is expanded a bit late=
r



Roni Even


From: avt [mailto:avt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roni Even (A)
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Subject: [AVTCORE] WGLC on draft-ietf-avtcore-cc-feedback-message-05


Hello, all!



As we discussed in Singapore, this is to announce a Working Group Last Call=
 for draft-ietf-avtcore-cc-feedback-05.



Please review this document and send comments to the AVT mailing list by Th=
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If you review the document and have nothing to add, please let the list kno=
w that as well.



Thank you!



Roni Even

AVTCore co-chair




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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span><=
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n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Some comments as indiv=
idual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">1. in section 10 the r=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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n></p>
<pre><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
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RTCP) Feedback for Congestion Control in Interactive Multimedia Conferences=
&quot;">I-D.ietf-rmcat-rtp-cc-feedback</a>] that in most cases a per frame =
feedback is a reasonable assumption on how frequent the RTCP feedback messa=
ges can be transmitted.</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&#8220; later in t=
he section it talks about 50-200msec and say that a value in this range nee=
d to be negotiated.&nbsp; Looking at rmcat-rtp-cc-feedback I got the impres=
sion that a report per frame is recommended. <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">3. A nit &#8211; please expand RTS at first=
 occurrence, it is expanded a bit later<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
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<pre><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roni Even (A)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 05, 2019 9:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> avt@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> rmcat@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AVTCORE] WGLC on draft-ietf-avtcore-cc-feedback-message-05=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hello, all!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">As we discussed in Singapore, this is to announce=
 a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-avtcore-cc-feedback-05.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Please review this document and send comments to =
the AVT mailing list by Thursday, December 19, 2019.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">If you review the document and have nothing to ad=
d, please let the list know that as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Roni Even <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">AVTCore co-chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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