Re: [AVTCORE] [xrblock] Fw: I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-02.txt
Peter Musgrave <musgravepj@gmail.com> Wed, 15 June 2011 12:41 UTC
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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:41:22 -0400
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From: Peter Musgrave <musgravepj@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] [xrblock] Fw: I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-02.txt
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I agree with Colin Peter Musgrave (as individual) On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> wrote: > On 10 Jun 2011, at 09:59, Qin Wu wrote: > > Hi, > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Colin Perkins" <csp@csperkins.org> > >> To: "Qin Wu" <sunseawq@huawei.com> > >> Cc: <avt@ietf.org>; <xrblock@ietf.org>; <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com > > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Fw: I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-02.txt > >> > >> > >> On 27 May 2011, at 03:36, Qin Wu wrote: > >>> This version addresses the open issues regarding identity information > repetition and acknowledge section. > >>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-02.txt > >>> > >>> The diff is: > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-02 > >>> > >>> Comments are welcome! > >> > >> This helps, but to my mind doesn't go far enough. We have the SSRC to > identify participants. I don't see much benefit from having a separate > identity tag in XR blocks. > >> > > [Qin]: I think that we are talking about how to define future RTCP XR > Block. It seems to me the rule we are following to define the new RTCP XR > BLock in the avtcore-monarch is a little different from the rule of we are > doing to the existing RTCP XR described in RFC3611. > > > > As for the existing XR Block defined in RFC3611, each of the existing XR > Block has allocated a field for SSRC of source. However such identity > information can be repeated several times if several metric blocks reporting > one stream from one source is carried in the same RTCP Packet. > > > > In order to reduce overhead to carry duplicated SSRC of source in each > metric block, in the new XR Block, we separate such SSRC of source out from > each metric block. > > > > One way is to allocate identity tag field in each metric block which can > be used to tell which metric block report on stream from which source. > > > > Another way is to follow the existing rules defined in RFC3611. put back > the SSRC of source field into each metric block which also can be used to > tell which metric block report on stream from which source. > > However this rule seems to contradict to the rule of reducing identity > information repetition discussed in avtcore-monarch. > > > > Which way we should follow? > > > I think you should follow RFC 3611. > > The savings from using the new identity tag don't seem worth the added > complexity. > > -- > Colin Perkins > http://csperkins.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance > avt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt >
- [AVTCORE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-… internet-drafts
- [AVTCORE] Fw: I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-mona… Qin Wu
- Re: [AVTCORE] Fw: I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Fw: I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-… Qin Wu
- Re: [AVTCORE] [xrblock] Fw: I-D Action: draft-iet… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] [xrblock] Fw: I-D Action: draft-iet… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [AVTCORE] [xrblock] Fw: I-D Action: draft-iet… Qin Wu
- Re: [AVTCORE] [xrblock] Fw: I-D Action: draft-iet… Schwarz, Albrecht (Albrecht)
- Re: [AVTCORE] [xrblock] Fw: I-D Action: draft-iet… Colin Perkins