Re: [AVTCORE] Comments on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285bis-03

"Roni Even" <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> Tue, 18 October 2016 12:05 UTC

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From: Roni Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Comments on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285bis-03
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Hi,
I agree with Dave
Roni

> -----Original Message-----
> From: singer@apple.com [mailto:singer@apple.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:08 PM
> To: Magnus Westerlund
> Cc: Roni Even; draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis@ietf.org; IETF AVTCore WG
> Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Comments on draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285bis-03
> 
> 
> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 16:53 , Magnus Westerlund
> <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think there is a negotiation mechanism, in that if one include extmap
> mappings for values above 15, then you indicate that you support the two-
> byte format, and if you accept you can clearly indicate this. Maybe this
> should be made more explicit, as a method of determining the operations
> mode. To me we do now end up with four different cases:
> >
> > A. One-byte only: only ID's in range 1-14. The state of a=extmap-allow-
> mixed has no meaning, only indication if one want to renegotiate.
> >
> > B. two-byte only: only ID's above 15. The state of a=extmap-allow-mixed
> has no meaning, only indication if one want to renegotiate.
> 
> sorry, I don't get this.  Two-byte headers get you full-byte length fields
and
> thus longer payloads. You could use these with small local IDs.  Why say
you
> have to use IDs outside 1-14???
> 
> 
> >
> > C. one or two-byte, but no switching between within a RTP stream: No
> a=extmap-allow-mixed attribute, but negotiated IDs both in 1-14 as well as
> above 15.
> >
> > D. one and two-bytes with switching: a=extmap-allow-mixed and
> negotiated IDs both in 1-14 as well as above 15.
> >
> > Maybe the above alternatives should be made explicit to ensure that
> implementers understand and consider all the alternatives.
> 
> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.