Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.txt
Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Fri, 07 May 2004 14:44 UTC
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From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
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Subject: Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.txt
Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 09:23:11 +0100
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On Thursday 06 May 2004 17:13, Dave Singer wrote: > > > >- In the encoding considerations for the MIME type, may wish to > > > > note > >> > > >> > that file formats are defined elsewhere? > >> > >> The problem here is that all file formats are still in their > >> specification phase -- we can't reference them (yet). And what good > >> would a simple "elsewhere" do? > > > >Questions about the lack of a file format have been raised during IESG > >review of other RTP payload formats. Noting that the formats are being > >defined elsewhere will avoid the question later. > > Then perhaps it is appropriate to say a little more. > > MPEG has defined the storage of AVC/H.264 content in ISO-family > files, and that specification is published. It's not expected to be > used standalone, of course, as video is rarely found standalone > (usually with audio). So this does define the storage of AVC in MP4, > 3GP, 3GP2 and so on. RTP packetization of this format shouldn't be > excessively problematic, as it stores whole NAL Units in the same > form as the RTP payload, and hint tracks can also be used if > appropriate to pre-compute packetization. > > The packing of AVC/H.264 into MPEG-2 transport streams is also > defined, so it is also possible to encounter MPEG-2 > transport-streams-frozen-on-disk which contain H.264. The RTP > packetization of those would involve changing the NAL Units from > start-code to length-fields, and I expect other operations. > > Would text like this help? I wouldn't go into too much detail, but certainly mentioning these points is worthwhile. -- Colin Perkins http://csperkins.org/ _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
- [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.txt Internet-Drafts
- Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.t… philippe.gentric
- Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.t… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.t… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.t… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.t… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.t… Dave Singer
- Re: [AVT] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-avt-rtp-h264-05.t… Colin Perkins