Re: [AVTCORE] AD Evaluation draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-08
Roni Even <roni.even@huawei.com> Sun, 26 March 2017 19:08 UTC
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From: Roni Even <roni.even@huawei.com>
To: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>, "draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis.all@ietf.org>, IETF AVTCore WG <avt@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] AD Evaluation draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-08
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Ben, See inline Roni > > > Hi, > > This is my AD evaluation of draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5285-bis-08. These are > mostly editorial, but I'd like to resolve at least the substantive > comments prior to IETF last call. > > Thanks! > > Ben. > > - Substantive: > > -- 6, paragraph 3, "... unless the > transmitter has some (out of band) knowledge..." > Why bother with that exception? It seems like the negotiation is easy > enough. If people write code assuming that out-of-band knowledge will be > available, interoperability will suffer. [Roni Even] We need it since RFC3264 is not the only usage. For example for declarative SDP there is no negotiation > > -- 9, 2nd paragraph: > > 3264 does not require integrity protection to be _used_, just _provided_ > (read: MUST implement). Does this mean to promote that to "MUST use"? If > so, please be clear that this is a new requirement. > > But from a practical perspective, do you believe people will really > follow a "MUST use"? Is it a MUST (BUT WE KNOW YOU WON”T) [RFC6919] ? [Roni Even] I am OK with changing it to" MUST be implemented" > > > - Editorial: > > -- 3, third paragraph: > > This changes the "... mechanism may be available..." from the original > to "... mechanism can be available...". I think "may be" is more correct > here. [Roni Even] OK > > -- 4.1.1, first paragraph, first sentence: > This is a statement of principle, and as such shouldn't use 2119 > keywords. [Roni Even] OK, is changing to lower case enough? I can add a sentence to section 2 that normative language is written in capital letters in the document. > > -- 4.1.2, 2nd paragraph: s/len/length ; or "len field" (2 occurances) > [Roni Even] OK > -- 4.1.2, 3rd paragraph, sentence starting with "Only the extension..." > > “Only…MUST” constructs are ambiguous. The can be interpreted to > say the MUST only applies to the matching set, and the rest are > undefined. Please recast as “MUST NOT ”. (Note that this construct > appears elsewhere in the draft, but I think the other occurrences are in > the original text. I don't expect this update to fix those.) [Roni Even] The text says that only one byte or two byte rtp header extensions MUST be used in an RTP packet. I am not sure what is confusing here? > > --- "A transmitter MAY be aware...": That's a statement of fact; the MAY > should not be capitalized. [Roni Even]OK > > -- 4.2, first sentence, first paragraph: The REQUIRED seems to be > talking about an external requirement from RTP. If so, it should not be > normative here. [Roni Even]OK > > -- 7, 11th paragraph, "Local identifiers in the valid range inclusive in > an offer or answer > MUST NOT be used more than once per media section" > > The MUST NOT was not capitalized in 5285, probably because it was the > 4th time the requirement was mentioned :-). I don't think it needs to be > promoted here. [Roni Even]OK > > -- 9, 1st paragraph: I don’t think this is an appropriate use of a > 2119 MUST. (It wasn’t capitalized in the original.) > [Roni Even]OK > >