Re: [AVTCORE] Header Compression and RFC5285bis

"Roni Even" <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> Tue, 10 May 2016 07:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Header Compression and RFC5285bis
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Hi Magnus,
I am updating the document based on other comments from Colin.
The current text says "The interactions of the RTP   header extension and
header compression is explored further in   [RFC2508] and [RFC3095]."
Do you think we need more text here? Any suggestions
Roni

> -----Original Message-----
> From: avt [mailto:avt-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Magnus Westerlund
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 6:47 PM
> To: IETF AVTCore WG; Stephen Casner
> Subject: [AVTCORE] Header Compression and RFC5285bis
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Stephen Casner raised a private comment on the
> draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-05 when he did the IANA expert review.
> This was that both
> draft-ietf-avtext-sdes-hdr-ext-05 and RFC5285bis doesn't discuss impact of
> header compression due to the presence of RTP header extensions.
> 
> I have to agree that this is something that at least RFC5285bis should
have a
> discussion on. There are some impact.
> 
> In the case of Robust Header Compression (ROHC) (RFC 5795 and RFC 5225)
> the impact to my understanding is the following. RFC5225 and the RTP
> profile don't compress the actual header extension at all. The X bit in
the
> header is compressed and it is classified in Section A.5 as Rarely
changing.
> The assumption here is that what value is set on a previous packet will be
> maintained on the next.
> 
> Looking at the emerging usages that is mostly right, but there will be
periods
> where the x bit may be flipping its value. The usage I am considering is
these
> initial inclusion of the MID, CNAME etc. However for example a video
> stream, it is sufficient to include the header extension in a single
packet out
> potentially many for an particular video image/frame. Thus one might have
a
> on, off, next TS, on, then off on subsequent packets.
> 
> The impact of the classification as Rarely changing is that when a change
is
> needed a larger header than otherwise needed will be sent.
> Thus the impact will be that each on and off behaviour will result in one
and
> maybe two larger ROHC headers to get the change across compared to if no
> RTP header extensions would have been present.
> 
> I haven't looked at CRTP, but I would guess similar impact.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Magnus Westerlund
> 
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