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Re: [AVTCORE] WGLC on draft-ietf-avtcore-ecn-for-rtp-04

"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Wed, 19 October 2011 16:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] WGLC on draft-ietf-avtcore-ecn-for-rtp-04
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> Secondly, I think the optimization you propose is good and I think we
> can accept it with the note that I would like much more conservative
> ECN
> STUN check transmission schedule if we are going to do media in
> parallel.
> 
> However, this is an substantiative change so I would like to see if
> there is WG support for it.

With the years-long bru-hah-hah of ICE being misunderstood for "delaying
call set up", it seems important for the success of ECN RTP to ensure
it does not suffer that same fate.  That would delay/prevent ECN RTP's
widespread deployment.

-d

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