Re: [AVTCORE] Last question about AVP profiles for RTP over QUIC (was: Re: Registering AVP Profiles for RTP over QUIC)

[Roman Shpount <[e-mail]>]

Hi Spencer,

My name is misspelled in the presentation (s/Shpout/Shpount) :)

The alternative to ICE TCP candidates is relay over TCP or TLS (TURN). Even
if we decide not to support ICE-TCP, if ICE is supported, RTP-over-QUIC
will be transported over TCP or TLS relay in some cases.

My main point is that ICE-TCP is part of ICE infrastructure and typically a
part of all major ICE implementations. ICE-TCP solves a major problem with
blocked UDP and seamlessly adapts UDP-based protocol to work over TCP.
Disallowing ICE-TCP for RTP-over-QUIC would require extra work to disable
it in the ICE library. It is possible that a better solution for blocked
UDP can be developed for RTP-over-QUIC, but this would require changes to
ICE specifications and implementations.

To summarize, unless we plan to redesign, modify, or disable ICE for
RTP-over-QUIC, ICE-TCP will need to be supported.
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Roman Shpount


On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 3:23 PM Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi, Roman,
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 11:39 PM Roman Shpount <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Spencer,
>>
>> I am participating remotely, but let me know when the slides are ready.
>>
>
> I finished my slides yesterday evening, and I just checked that they're in
> the datatracker now.
>
> URL is
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/114/materials/slides-114-avtcore-ietf-114-avtcore-slides-09.pdf
> for combined slideset, and my topic starts on slide 47, immediately
> following the RTP over QUIC slides.
>
> Thank you for being willing to take a look!
>
> Best,
>
> Spencer
>
>>