Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 indraft-ietf-avt-rtp-svc-08
Randell Jesup <rjesup@wgate.com> Fri, 28 March 2008 15:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 indraft-ietf-avt-rtp-svc-08
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Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> writes: >Synchronisation and timestamp mapping across sessions is a standard >part of RTP. Again, no new mechanisms are needed. It is standard, but its use in SVC is slightly unusual, since normally there's an assumption in RFC 3550 that there can be timestamp drift between two RTP streams, even if they come from the same source (and normally you don't really know where they come from). For example, with two audio channels, both at 8000Hz sampling, both from the same endpoint, you'll get RTCPs that lock both of their RTP timestamps to NTP - but the two streams could drift relative to each other, because they might be sampled off different clocks/crystals/devices. In SVC, there's an additional constraint that all the related streams are based off the same sampling timeline and clock, then converted to RTP timestamps for each stream. The timestamps (per RFC 3550) should have random startpoints, but the RTCP packets will (once received!!) lock the streams together, with no drift. I would expect it makes sense to have about one sentence mentioning that the base NAL sampling times used to generate the RTP timestamps all come from the same source timeline, since that's not normally a constraint in 3550. -- Randell Jesup, Worldgate (developers of the Ojo videophone), ex-Amiga OS team rjesup@wgate.com "The fetters imposed on liberty at home have ever been forged out of the weapons provided for defence against real, pretended, or imaginary dangers from abroad." - James Madison, 4th US president (1751-1836) _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
- [AVT] Fwd: Retransmission and fast channel change… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] Fwd: Retransmission and fast channel ch… Randell Jesup
- Re: [AVT] Fwd: Retransmission and fast channel ch… Jose Rey
- Re: [AVT] Fwd: Retransmission and fast channel ch… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] Fwd: Retransmission and fast channel ch… Jose Rey
- Re: [AVT] Fwd: Retransmission and fast channel ch… Colin Perkins
- [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 in draft-… Ye-Kui.Wang
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 in dr… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 in dr… Ye-Kui.Wang
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 indra… Even, Roni
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 indra… Ye-Kui.Wang
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 indra… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 indra… Ye-Kui.Wang
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 indra… Randell Jesup
- Re: [AVT] Some comments to subsection 8.1.1 in dr… Ye-Kui.Wang