[AVTCORE] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata-16: (with DISCUSS)
"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Wed, 09 September 2026 10:07 UTC
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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Yong He <yonghe@qti.qualcomm.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>
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Hello Yong I am sorry but this is an IETF document, so, in my view, it should follow the IETF ways of writing specifications, including the expected receiver behaviour when receiving badly formatted frames. Regards -éric From: Yong He <yonghe@qti.qualcomm.com> Date: Thursday, 27 August 2026 at 17:39 To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>; Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Cc: avt@ietf.org <avt@ietf.org>; avtcore-chairs@ietf.org <avtcore-chairs@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata@ietf.org <draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata@ietf.org>; ietf@mariuskleidl.net <ietf@mariuskleidl.net> Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata-16: (with DISCUSS) Hi Eric, Regarding the concern, "What should the decoder/receiver do when `The value of Frame Rate equal to 0 MUST NOT be sent` is violated ?", I share Stephan's view on this matter, if my understanding is correctly. It is preferable not to specify any normative behavior for handling non-compliant requests and instead leave the response to the decoder/receiver implementation. Implementers should have the flexibility to decide how best to handle such invalid requests. I removed the original text that requires the decoder/receiver to ignore the invalid requests as I consider this the simplest approach and believe it aligns with Stephen's recommendation. BR, Yong ________________________________ From: Éric Vyncke via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2026 1:58 AM To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> Cc: avt@ietf.org <avt@ietf.org>; avtcore-chairs@ietf.org <avtcore-chairs@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata@ietf.org <draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata@ietf.org>; ietf@mariuskleidl.net <ietf@mariuskleidl.net> Subject: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata-16: (with DISCUSS) WARNING: This email originated from outside of Qualcomm. Please be wary of any links or attachments, and do not enable macros. Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata-16: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtcore-rtcp-green-metadata/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the -16 revision of this document as it addresses most of my blocking and COMMENT issues (see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avt/Jl37msuWJmxEQC9VvGzOoCwekPc/) There is still a remaining blocking issue that was not addressed (or did I miss it ?), Stephan Wenger offered several solutions (see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avt/5TIhVvfSxd12DxPhgdQVaS5ZD2M/) ### Sections 4.1.1 & 4.2.1 (and possibly others) What should the decoder/receiver do when `The value of Frame Rate equal to 0 MUST NOT be sent` is violated ?
- [AVTCORE] Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-avt… Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
- [AVTCORE] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf… Yong He
- [AVTCORE] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf… Yong He
- [AVTCORE] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [AVTCORE] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf… Yong He
- [AVTCORE] Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)