[AVT] RFC2833 and 2833bis

"Kevin A. Noll" <kevin.noll@perfectorder.com> Mon, 22 March 2004 15:43 UTC

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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:40:29 -0500
From: "Kevin A. Noll" <kevin.noll@perfectorder.com>
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Please forgive me if this has been a topic of discussion already,
but I have not been able to find any references to it...

I am interested in understanding the correct handling of lost
packets in the context of RFC 2833 and draft-ietf-avt-rfc2833bis-04. 

I have not found any clear explanation for what a receiver should
do in the event that:

1. The "marker" at the beginning of an event is lost? 

Should the receiver:
	a. ignore the entire event
	b. assume that the marker was lost and playout the event per 
	the event messages that are received (i.e. non-marker and the 
	"end").

I would think that (b) would be the better choice.

2. Only the "end" flag is received? (This is only a variation on
item (1) above.


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