[AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-payload-registry
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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-payload-registry
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Hi, We are changing the text of RFC 8088, for that reason we need a normative reference, i.e. this spec affects this document of a lower status. This is one of these cases where the down-ref is obvious to happen, but also non-problematic. Just note it in the IETF last call, no one will object. /Magnus From: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com> Date: Friday, 13 September 2024 at 10:44 To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Cc: avt@ietf.org <avt@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-payload-registry Thanks Magnus. One more thing, is this necessary to have RFC8088 as normative reference? And for my information and for the record, why do we need this specification to be standard track? Was this a requirement from IANA or any registry policy? As we don't even know the souce of the registry and hence no policy attached to it, wouldn't a infomation RFC can also do this job? //Zahed On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 8:56 AM Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com<mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>> wrote: Hi Zahed, Yes, your sentences are clearer. I have substituted the paragraph and submitted -02. /Magnus From: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com>> Date: Thursday, 12 September 2024 at 15:21 To: avt@ietf.org<mailto:avt@ietf.org> <avt@ietf.org<mailto:avt@ietf.org>> Subject: [AVTCORE] AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-payload-registry Hi, Thanks for working on closing the unused registry where we even don't how it was created. I have an editorial suggestion. Then following text is well understandable in the introducton section however, it is kind of not that well conducted in abstract. I have following proposal OLD: To resolve this situation this document performs the following. First it updates the registry to include known RTP payload formats at the time of writing. Then it closes the IANA Registry for RTP Payload formats Media Types for future registration. Beyond instructing IANA to close this registry, the instructions to authors in RFC 8088 are updated to reflect this. NEW: This document resolves the situation by first updating the RTP Payload Format Media Type registry to include all the known RTP payload formats at the time of writing, then it closes this IANA Registry for any future registration. Beyond instructing IANA to close this registry, the instructions to authors in RFC 8088 are updated to reflect this. If this is something that makes sense, then please update the draft and I will directly start the IETF LC. //Zahed
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Magnus Westerlund
- [AVTCORE] AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-payl… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Magnus Westerlund
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Magnus Westerlund
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Magnus Westerlund
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Bernard Aboba
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Magnus Westerlund
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Bernard Aboba
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- [AVTCORE] Re: AD review : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker