Re: [AVTCORE] Martin Duke's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-rtp-jpegxs-16: (with COMMENT)

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Thu, 17 June 2021 19:05 UTC

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From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 12:04:43 -0700
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Martin Duke's No Objection on draft-ietf-payload-rtp-jpegxs-16: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks! But how is this guaranteeing end-to-end latency, which is a
property of the path?

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:59 AM Tim Bruylants <TBR@intopix.com> wrote:

> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > In the abstract and intro, it promises "end-to-end latency confined to a
> fraction of a frame".
> >
> > I am not sure what to make of this guarantee. Latency is a measure of
> time and a frame is measured in ... bytes?
> >
> > Moreover, end-to-end latency is mostly a property of the path, and not
> something an encoding format can promise.
>
>
> Indeed, in the context of an RTP protocol specification, the word "frame"
> is ambiguous. In this case, we refer to "video frames" and we have modified
> the text accordingly. It is common to express latency in terms of video
> frames, as this translates to a time (given the video frame rate). We have
> updated the text to use "video frame" instead.
>