Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft
Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Tue, 21 October 2003 16:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft
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On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 12:54 Europe/London, Jose Rey wrote: ... > In previous emails we have been asked to explain our patent > application and > we > informed AVT that the patent application itself specifies a transport > method > using the RTP protocol where two sequence numbers are used: one to > specifiy > the transmission order (=RTP SN) and the other one defining the > reprodution > order, which in the draft corresponds with the OSN (original sequence > number). We also stated that it is not possible to implement the > protocol > without infringing on the patent. > So far we have not received any more questions on the patent, but are > happy > to provide them in case needed. > > On the issue of how to proceed with this RTP retransmission draft some > opinions have been provided by Magnus Westerlund, Lars-Erik Jonsson and > John Lazzaro. John Lazzaro (08.09.03) has suggested to publish it as > Informational if the patent rights are held while Magnus and > Lars-Erik have suggested to proceed with the document as a Proposed > Standard (as we understand from the emails on from 22.09.03 and > 09.09.03). > > Taking all the above into account and considering that > independent of the patent situation this work is intended to be > included in > the next release of 3GPP, we would like to ask the group to proceed > with the > draft on standards track. > > cheers, > Jose [takes working group chair hat off] 3GPP is only one forum which uses IETF standards, and one where dealing with IPR issues is commonplace. Having patented standards is more of an issue for open source developers, who are often excluded by the licensing terms. Would Matsushita be willing to clarify if the "reasonable, nondiscriminatory" terms allow open source implementations to use the retransmission format (this will probably require a Royalty-Free license)? [puts working group chair hat on again] -- Colin Perkins http://csperkins.org/ _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- [AVT] Retransmission draft Jose Rey
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Jose Rey
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Jose Rey
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft John Lazzaro
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB)
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Magnus Westerlund
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Jose Rey
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- [AVT] Re: Retransmission draft John Lazzaro
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft David.Leon
- [AVT] Re: Retransmission draft John Lazzaro
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft José Rey
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft José Rey
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft vsathe@san.rr.com
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Gamze Seckin
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Rolf Hakenberg
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Jose Rey
- Re: [AVT] Retransmission draft Colin Perkins
- RE: [AVT] Retransmission draft Rolf Hakenberg