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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephan =93Copy that=94 (in line with your previous =93wilco=94). Private joke aside, I have now cleared my DISCUSS position and thank you fo= r addressing all my concerns. May I suggest, next time, not to use any ballot position to send this messa= ge? I was about to skip reading it because it was about =93Warren Kumari=94= . I know that this is tiring and perhaps =93over the border=94, but everyon= e (including the email archive readers) will benefit by replying to ballot = positions one by one (just a suggestion though). I wish you and your relatives a Merry Christmas (if it applies to you) and = Happy New Year, -=E9ric From: Stephan Wenger Date: Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 17:27 To: avt@ietf.org , Eric Vyncke (evyncke) ,= John Scudder Cc: draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-evc@ietf.org , avtcore-chairs@ietf.org , The IESG Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-avtcore-r= tp-evc-06: (with COMMENT) Hi =C9ric, John, IESG, AVT working group, Based on the unresolved DISCUSSes by =C9ric and the unresolved COMMENTs by = =C9ric and John, we have revised the EVC payload draft, and I just submitte= d version 07; see here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtcore= -rtp-evc/. The key changes are as follows: -Moved RFC 7656 and RFC 7667 to the informative references section. Both R= FCs are informational, and their use in the EVC payload is informational in= nature. -Addressed =C9ric=92s remaining two DISCUSS points in section 4.3.2 by a) c= apitalizing the MUST in =93the value of Reserve and E Must be equal to 0=94= and by adding protocol error robustness language (regarding nested APs) in= the form of an informative note, using the three options we discussed earl= ier. We believe that an informative note, rather than normative language, = is appropriate here, as the situation in which the language comes into play= cannot occur in a compliant implementation. -Addressed the bug identified by John in section 1.1.4 using the language h= e suggested (which was perfect; thanks again). -Addressed the remaining (small, mostly editorial) changes requested as COM= MENTS by =C9ric and John, unless they were, in our opinion, adequately argu= ed on this distribution before. There are no changes to the bits on the wire. There are no changes in the = IANA Considerations section, nor in the material referenced by it. Please let us know how to proceed. Happy Holidays, Stephan --_000_PH0PR11MB496653146B1295ED17227EEAA995APH0PR11MB4966namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Stephan

 

=93Copy that=94 (in line with your previous =93wilco= =94).

 

Private joke aside, I have now cleared my DISCUSS po= sition and thank you for addressing all my concerns.

 

May I suggest, next time, not to use any ballot posi= tion to send this message? I was about to skip reading it because it was ab= out =93Warren Kumari=94. I know that this is tiring and perhaps =93over the border=94, but everyone (including the e= mail archive readers) will benefit by replying to ballot positions one by o= ne (just a suggestion though).

 

I wish you and your relatives a Merry Christmas (if = it applies to you) and Happy New Year,

 

-=E9ric

 

 

 

 

From: Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>=
Date: Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 17:27
To: avt@ietf.org <avt@ietf.org>, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evy= ncke@cisco.com>, John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
Cc: draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-evc@ietf.org <draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-e= vc@ietf.org>, avtcore-chairs@ietf.org <avtcore-chairs@ietf.org>, T= he IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-av= tcore-rtp-evc-06: (with COMMENT)

Hi =C9ric, John, IESG, AVT working group,=

 

Based on the unresolved DISCUSSes by= =C9ric and the unresolved COMMENTs by =C9ric and John, we have revised the= EVC payload draft, and I just submitted version 07; see here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-evc/.  The= key changes are as follows:

-Moved RFC 7656 and RFC 7667 to the = informative references section.  Both RFCs are informational, and thei= r use in the EVC payload is informational in nature.<= /span>

-Addressed =C9ric=92s remaining two DISCUSS points= in section 4.3.2 by a) capitalizing the MUST in =93the value of Reserve an= d E Must be equal to 0=94 and by adding protocol error robustness language (regarding nested APs) in the form of an informa= tive note, using the three options we discussed earlier.  We believe t= hat an informative note, rather than normative language, is appropriate her= e, as the situation in which the language comes into play cannot occur in a compliant implementation.

-Addressed the bug identified by John in section 1= .1.4 using the language he suggested (which was perfect; thanks again).

-Addressed the remaining (small, mostly editorial)= changes requested as COMMENTS by =C9ric and John, unless they were, in our opi= nion, adequately argued on this distribution before.

 

There are no changes to the bits on = the wire.  There are no changes in the IANA Considerations section, no= r in the material referenced by it.

 

Please let us know how to proceed.

 

Happy Holidays,

Stephan

 

 

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