Re: [AVTCORE] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-payload-rtp-jpegxs-16: (with DISCUSS)

[Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>]

Just chiming in here ...

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 2:10 PM Tim Bruylants <[e-mail]> wrote:

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> > DISCUSS:
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> >
> > This memo is defining a RTP payload for JPEG XS that is not publicly
> available.
> > This hampers the review of the memo, specially when it is defining
> terminologies which ask me to look at the specifications.
> >
> > This concerns has also been raised by other ADs.
> >
> > Was this document made available during the work in the working group?
>
>
> This is a valid comment. We are unsure how to resolve this. ISO is very
> strict about distribution of documents outside of the working groups (i.e.
> it is not allowed at all).
> The ISO 21122 standards were written by some of the same authors as this
> RTP Payload spec (like myself and Thomas Richter), but the ISO documents
> were (to my knowledge) not shared.
>
> In order to resolve this issue, we need to know how IESG handled this with
> other ISO standards that are not open? Or is 21122 the first? Please advise.


I note that Stephan Wenger is listed as liaison manager for SG29 in ISO, at
https://www.ietf.org/about/liaisons/ - isn't that the ISO group that
produced that specification? I'd be somewhat surprised
if draft-ietf-payload-rtp-jpegxs is the first draft the IETF has published
with a normative reference to an SC29 specification, although that's not my
area of expertise.

Perhaps Stephan is a good person to ask what's possible, and what past
practice has been?

Best,

Spencer