Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>: sampling rate
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Fri, 24 September 2004 12:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>: sampling rate
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Qiaobing Xie wrote: > > I'd think that the saving (in terms of reduction to the system design > and signaling complexity) by avoiding performing RTP timestamp rate > switches (as Magnus pointed out above) far overweighs the ability of > using the sampling rate to drive the media clock. > Also, nothing in the case of VMR-WB prevents it from driving the media clock. The larger issue is that VMR-WB has built in resampling functions, and the fully information carrying sampling rate needed is 16kHz, not 8. However resampling before the codec, or resampling in the codec does not make any difference from the handling, only somewhat in regards to quality, due to encoder optimization. As the native out-put is 16kHz using a 8kHz RTP clock prevents a receiver from driving its media clock with the appropriate rate. If a receiver is using 8kHz output, then it easier to scale down the rate, then to scale it up for the normal receiver behavior. Thus I see the least problem of driving the media clock when we only uses a 16kHz clock, rather then a clock that reflects the encoders front-end. Cheers Magnus Westerlund Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVA/A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 8 4048287 Torshamsgatan 23 | Fax +46 8 7575550 S-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
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- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Qiaobing Xie
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Qiaobing Xie
- RE: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… sassan.ahmadi
- RE: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… sassan.ahmadi
- RE: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… sassan.ahmadi
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Qiaobing Xie
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Qiaobing Xie
- RE: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Harinath Garudadri
- RE: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… sassan.ahmadi
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- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
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- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
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- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Qiaobing Xie
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Randell Jesup
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Magnus Westerlund
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- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVT] RE: <draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-03.txt>:… Qiaobing Xie
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