Re: [babel] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-babel-source-specific-07: (with COMMENT)

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 05 November 2020 15:03 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 07:02:51 -0800
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Subject: Re: [babel] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-babel-source-specific-07: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks for that.  You might include a sentence or two suggesting this is
why that's a SHOULD and not a MUST.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 3:42 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:

> Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> writes:
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> > Murray Kucherawy has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-babel-source-specific-07: No Objection
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> > COMMENT:
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> > What's an example of when one might deviate from the SHOULD in Section
> > 4?
>
> Only thing I can think of is that if someone already implemented a
> disambiguation like that suggested in the second bullet, and the
> underlying platform then adds native support, one could conceivably
> continue using the disambiguation instead of switching to the native
> support.
>
> The Linux kernel is an example of this: in ancient times there was no
> native support for source-specific routing, but it was possible to use
> the generic policy routing mechanism to achieve this. When the native
> support was added, it came with a new UAPI, so a routing daemon would
> have to change to support it, while the old policy-based way would still
> work. Or maybe an implementation wants to support ancient kernels with
> the same code and keeps using the policy-routing based way; it would
> likely be somewhat painful, but in principle I suppose it could work.
>
> -Toke
>