Re: [babel] I-D Action: draft-ietf-babel-v4viav6-01.txt

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Fri, 09 April 2021 18:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [babel] I-D Action: draft-ietf-babel-v4viav6-01.txt
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> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-babel-v4viav6-01.txt

I've made a full pass over the existing text, fixing typos and rewriting
stuff.  I've almost completely rewritten the Security Considerations
section, which I'd be grateful for people to check.

Section 3 is new, and contains the word "hamper", a fact that makes me
immensely proud.  I consider it as a starting point for discussion.  It
differs from Donald's suggestion in the following ways:

  - it merely states that a router MUST be able to send ICMPv4 messages
    (after explaining why), implementation techniques are worded as mere
    examples;

  - it doesn't include Donald's suggestions to (1) use a randomly drawn
    address or (2) use the Babel dummy address, as I think they deserve
    further discussion.

Finally, I did not change the intended status (Experimental to Standards
Track), as it is not my role to gauge whether there is sufficient
consensus on this subject.

-- Juliusz