[babel] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-babel-hmac-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Mirja Kühlewind via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> Wed, 07 August 2019 12:18 UTC

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Subject: [babel] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-babel-hmac-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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DISCUSS:
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I would like to quickly discuss the following approach taken in section 4.3.1.1:
   "Since a challenge may be prompted by a packet replayed by an
   attacker, a node MUST impose a rate limitation to the challenges it
   sends; the limit SHOULD default to one challenge request every 300ms,
   and MAY be configurable."
While it is important to limit challenge messages here, there might be a better
approach than static rate-limiting given this is a request-response mechanism.
Usually the approach is to only allow for one outstanding request (without
reply) and apply some kind of loss detect/termination rule. In your case the
easiest approach would be when the 30 sec timer is expired, or if the RTT is
known (or can be estimated) then a value of e.g. 3xRTT could be appropriate as
well. Please consider this alternative approach. Maybe also see RFC8085 for
further guidance.

Further Appendix A (Incremental deployment and key rotation) contains normative
language and therefore should probably be moved into the body of the document.


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COMMENT:
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The shepherd write-up says: "This document updates the rfc6126bis draft as
noted on the title page and in the Abstract." However, that seems not to be the
case...?

This brings me to a separate question I would like to ask: Why is this an
extension in a separate document and not an (optional) part of rfc6126bis?