Re: [babel] [Babel-users] BASE64 and hex encoding HMAC keys for user presentation
Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Wed, 26 December 2018 01:04 UTC
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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:04:18 -0500
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Subject: Re: [babel] [Babel-users] BASE64 and hex encoding HMAC keys for user presentation
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If you need a KDF, I recommend RFC 5869. Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 5:09 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote: > Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> writes: > > >>> I think that the HMAC key should be generated automatically. I'd hope > >>> that any actual production deployment of HMAC would generate HMAC keys > >>> either randomly or by using a suitable KDF (or whatever the right > acronym > >>> is) and distribute it automatically. > > > >> Should we pick a KDF? Not necessarily for the RFC, but at least try to > >> get compatibility between bird and babeld, so users can just input a > >> password and expect things to work? > > > > I think we might need more deployment experience before we can answer > that. > > > > At this early stage, however, I wouldn't expect the master key to be > > distributed -- the KDF would be applied to the master key on a central > > node, and the derived secret is what gets distributed to the babeld and > > BIRD instances. So having a common syntax for the HMAC secret should be > > good enough. > > Fair enough :) > > -Toke > > _______________________________________________ > Babel-users mailing list > Babel-users@alioth-lists.debian.net > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/babel-users
- [babel] BASE64 and hex encoding HMAC keys for use… Dave Taht
- Re: [babel] BASE64 and hex encoding HMAC keys for… Dave Taht
- Re: [babel] [Babel-users] BASE64 and hex encoding… Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
- Re: [babel] BASE64 and hex encoding HMAC keys for… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [babel] [Babel-users] BASE64 and hex encoding… Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
- Re: [babel] [Babel-users] BASE64 and hex encoding… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [babel] [Babel-users] BASE64 and hex encoding… Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
- Re: [babel] [Babel-users] BASE64 and hex encoding… Donald Eastlake