Re: [babel] Last Call: <draft-ietf-babel-yang-model-09.txt> (YANG Data Model for Babel) to Proposed Standard

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Subject: Re: [babel] Last Call: <draft-ietf-babel-yang-model-09.txt> (YANG Data Model for Babel) to Proposed Standard
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On 17/05/2021 05:27, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
>> On May 15, 2021, at 4:06 AM, tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 14/05/2021 17:59, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that there should be no references to RFC numbers in the description statement? Note, the reference statement that follows the description statement has the complete reference to the RFC which is being cited in the description statement.
>>
>> I am saying that [RFC ZZZZ] and such like are usually xML and not plain text and that a YANG module is required to be plain text as when it is extracted from the RFC and floats off on is own independent of the rest of the RFC.  The 'canonical form' of a YANG module is plain text!
>
> Where in RFC 7950 or RFC 8407 does it say that?

It ia implicit in RFC8407 as a careful reading may show.

Tom Petch

>> Tom Petch
>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>>> On May 14, 2021, at 9:34 AM, tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 14/05/2021 17:17, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you point to something specific? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> action reset
>>>> ...[RFC ZZZZ]
>>>> ...
>>>> leaf value
>>>> [RFC2104]...[RFC4868]... [RFC8697]...  [RFC7693]
>>>> ...
>>>> leaf value
>>>> [RFC7468]
>>>>
>>>> Tom Petch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 14, 2021, at 3:20 AM, tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/05/2021 21:46, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
>>>>>>> This has been addressed in -10 version of the draft. Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed it has.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that some YANG clauses have [references] in them which are
>>>>>> likely not plain text; doubtless that will be fixed at some point
>>>>>> in the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom Petch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:38 AM, tom petch
>>>>>>>> <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This I-D introduces a new and unnecessary YANG prefix in
>>>>>>>> defiance of BCP216 s.4.2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It imports ietf-yang-types, perhaps the most widely imported
>>>>>>>> module in the world, and RFC6991, where that module is
>>>>>>>> specified, defines the proper prefix as 'yang'.  This I-D
>>>>>>>> invents a different one. Technically, YANG can cope with this
>>>>>>>> but that does not make it a sensible thing to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom Petch
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/04/2021 13:43, The IESG wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Mahesh Jethanandani
>>> mjethanandani@gmail.com
>>>
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