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Re: [Banana] charter comments and discussion

Margaret Cullen <margaretw42@gmail.com> Mon, 24 April 2017 07:38 UTC

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From: Margaret Cullen <margaretw42@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:38:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Banana] charter comments and discussion
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> On Apr 1, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:
> 
>>> - Makes sure that packets received by src (resp. dst) are identical to
>>>  packets originated by the dst (resp. src).
>>> - Only aggregates traffic "between consenting adults", i.e., when both src
>>>  and dst endpoints are aware of what is going on.
> 
>> - you should not be stuck with banana when you are able to use
>>  a transport protocol that can do better (e.g. MPTCP or MP capable Quick
>>  some time in the future)
> 
>> - When using banana, you should be able to get rid of the reordering and
>>  the delay it causes (e.g. if your transport protocol can really
>>  tolerate reordering - not in a TCP way)
> 
> I think the two of you are speaking of different things.  Pierre is
> speaking about his concern that Banana will introduce a new kind of IPv6
> middlebox, so he requests that a Banana box behave as a dumb
> en/decapsulator.  Pilipp is speaking about the ability to bypass Banana.
> 
> Both requirements have the same goal (avoiding contributing to so-called
> "ossification"), but they are different requirements.  For the record,
> I support both.

So do I, although I am not sure we want to include this sort of detail in the charter vs. selecting solutions that have these properties.

Margaret

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