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Re: [Banana] Proposed Charter for BANANA WG

Margaret Wasserman <margaretw42@gmail.com> Wed, 04 October 2017 22:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Banana] Proposed Charter for BANANA WG
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Hi a Suresh,  I won't be in Singapore, but I am happy to participate in a side meeting via video chat, or perhaps we could have one where everyone participates via video chat sooner?

Margarer

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> On Oct 4, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Margaret/all,
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Margaret Cullen <margaretw42@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> [Resending to Suresh’s actual address]
>> 
>> Hi Suresh,
>> 
>> I think we have reached the point where there are no more constructive comments on the proposed BANANA charter, so I have included the final text below for your consideration.
>> 
>> There continue to be a small group of people who do not think that this work is necessary, or who don’t think it should be chartered in the IETF for various reasons.
>> Discussions with those people are not moving towards agreement, so we will have to leave it up to you to decide if we have sufficient interest and support to charter this work in the IETF.
> 
> I was hoping that the discussions would converge towards some form of agreement regarding the problems to be addressed by the charter, but as you mentioned, this has unfortunately not happened. 
> 
>> 
>> Please let us know whether you are willing to bring this charter to the IESG and IAB for consideration.
> 
> I have thought about this quite a bit and I do not believe that this charter can be a basis for a successful working group, due to the level of discord that has been apparent through the charter discussion. If you want me to make a decision today, my answer would be no. On the other hand, if you and the persons who opposed this work are willing, I am open to setting up a side meeting in Singapore to see if some kind of middle ground can be reached in going forward. 
> 
> Thanks
> Suresh
>

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