Re: [BEHAVE] proprietary implementation v.s standardisedprotocols//re: draft-xu-behave-nat-state-sync-00

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Wed, 02 December 2009 02:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] proprietary implementation v.s standardisedprotocols//re: draft-xu-behave-nat-state-sync-00
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In message <000801ca72f8$c3fa5820$c3f0200a@cisco.com>om>, "Dan Wing" writes:
> ...
> > > 100% agree.  Members in a cluster failing can locally be resolved
> > > without bouncing the Pref64.  If entire cluster fails, this is very
> > > unlikely but catastrophic, i just want a fail safe that can work
> > > *mostly*, and if the networks really broke, asking a user to reboot
> > 
> > Ask a user or ask a huge amount of users?
> 
> All the affected users.
> 
> > By the way, if one uses one of those mechanisms defined in 
> > draft-wing-behave-learn-prefix, other than DNS64, to 
> > synthesize IPv6 addresses, does that mean the DNS server or 
> > the DHCP server should also dynamically detect the 
> > availability of each prefix64?
> 
> Whatever hands out the prefix (DNS, IPv6 router advertisements, 
> DHCPv6) should hand out a functioning prefix.  Providing a 
> non-functioning prefix is harmful.

Actually it shouldn't be.  If a prefix doesn't work it it like a
router being down.  The machines are just not reachable.
 
> The same is true of a DHCP server providing the IP address of 
> DNS servers, NTP servers, and suchlike.  If a DHCP server hands
> out IP addresses for broken (or dead) servers, it is harmful.

Which is why DHCP is designed to hand out multiple ones so that
individual failures are not a issue.
 
> Does that need to be stated, though?
> 
> -d

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