Re: [BEHAVE] TCP port overloading, preservation and CGNs
Simon Perreault <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca> Wed, 26 June 2013 08:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] TCP port overloading, preservation and CGNs
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Le 2013-06-25 19:20, ivan c a écrit : >> Some NATs don't implement EDM and thus cannot switch to it. >> > > By definition, all NATs are "EDM". Please explain. > "Endpoint-dependent Mapping" really means "Address and port-dependent > Mapping". This is the most general case of NAT, where no requirement is > made on the type of mapping. For instance, "EIM" is a particular case of > this general case. I don't understand how this could be true. > Maybe we should use the term APDM instead of EDM for the sake of clarity, > but the best is probably to avoid using the "EDM" acronym altogether if it > leads to confusion. EDM is defined in RFC 6887. Let's keep using already-defined terminology if it fits. > Instead, we can use the term "no particular > requirement > on the mapping scheme" or something similar. This way, people new to the > discussion can understand the point immediately and we also avoid the use > of new obscure acronyms. EIM and EDM are not requirements. They are qualifiers of NAT behaviour. > Again, the goal here should be to suggest options for NAT to behave in p2p > friendly ways. Some useful optional features for CGNs, like port > overloading, do have minor caveats that should be detailed in the > document, > and they also don't apply to "3-tuple" NATs as you mentioned. > This is the best way in my opinion to write a Best Current Practices > document. I would simply like to first understand technically what you're proposing. Simon
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