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Dear Editors of the EVPN YANG data model draft<https://tools.ietf.org/html=
/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang-05>,
I have several questions regarding the draft, and would highly appreciated=
 your responses.


1.       The -05 version of the draft has expired almost two months ago. D=
o you plan to refresh it any time soon?

2.       The draft consistently uses type uint32 for the Ethernet segment =
identifier (ESI), while RFC 7432 explicitly defines it as a 10-octet integ=
er. Is this just a typo, or did I miss something substantial here?

3.       The draft states that it covers Integrated Routing and Bridging i=
n EVPN, but I could not find any traces of such coverage. Did I miss somet=
hing, or is just a forward declaration for the future version of the draft=
?

4.       RFC 7432 states that "When a customer site is connected to one or=
 more PEs via a set of Ethernet links, then this set of Ethernet links con=
stitutes an Ethernet segment". The Virtual Ethernet Segment draft<https://=
tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment-00> expands t=
his definition and, so that virtual Ethernet Segments can be comprised of:=


*         Ethernet Virtual Circuits aggregated on an ENNI physical ports

*         Ethernet PWs or even MPLS LSPs.
Can you please clarify the following:

a.       How does the proposed YANG data model differentiate between physi=
cal and virtual Ethernet Segments?

b.       Does this data model cover the scenario where the virtual Etherne=
t segments are represented by EVCs?

5.       RFC 7432 includes recommendations for usage (or non-usage) of the=
 Control Word in the EVPN encapsulation, and RFC 8214 (which is claimed to=
 be covered by this draft) provides a control plane mechanism for exchangi=
ng the CW usage information. Can you please clarify whether the draft cove=
r usage of the CW in the EVPN encapsulations?
Your feedback will be highly appreciated.

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear Editors of the <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.o=
rg/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang-05">
EVPN YANG data model draft</a>,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have several questions regarding the draft, and w=
ould highly appreciated your responses.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 lev=
el1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span sty=
le=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>The -05 version of the dr=
aft has expired almost two months ago. Do you plan to refresh it any time =
soon?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 lev=
el1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span sty=
le=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>The draft consistently us=
es type uint32 for the Ethernet segment identifier (ESI), while RFC 7432 e=
xplicitly defines it as a 10-octet integer. Is this just a typo, or did I =
miss something substantial here?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 lev=
el1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span sty=
le=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>The draft states that it =
covers Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN, but I could not find any t=
races of such coverage. Did I miss something, or is just a forward declara=
tion for the future version of the draft?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 lev=
el1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4.<span sty=
le=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>RFC 7432 states that &#82=
20;When a customer site is connected to one or more PEs via a set of Ether=
net links, then this set of Ethernet links constitutes an Ethernet segment=
&quot;. The
<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-se=
gment-00">
Virtual Ethernet Segment draft</a> expands this definition and, so that vi=
rtual Ethernet Segments can be comprised of:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Symbol"><span style=3D"mso=
-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Ethernet Virtual C=
ircuits aggregated on an ENNI physical ports<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Symbol"><span style=3D"mso=
-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Ethernet PWs or ev=
en MPLS LSPs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt">Can you please clarify=
 the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style=3D"font=
:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>How does the proposed YAN=
G data model differentiate between physical and virtual Ethernet Segments?=

<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style=3D"font=
:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>Does this data model cove=
r the scenario where the virtual Ethernet segments are represented by EVCs=
?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 lev=
el1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">5.<span sty=
le=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3D"LTR"></span>RFC 7432 includes recomme=
ndations for usage (or non-usage) of the Control Word in the EVPN encapsul=
ation, and RFC 8214 (which is claimed to be covered by this draft) provide=
s a control plane mechanism for exchanging
 the CW usage information. Can you please clarify whether the draft cover =
usage of the CW in the EVPN encapsulations?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Your feedback will be highly appreciated.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sasha<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Office: &#43;972-39266302<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cell:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;972-549266=
302<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Email:&nbsp;&nbsp; Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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