Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df

"Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" <satyamoh@cisco.com> Wed, 31 January 2018 20:41 UTC

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From: "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" <satyamoh@cisco.com>
To: "stephane.litkowski@orange.com" <stephane.litkowski@orange.com>, "John E Drake" <jdrake@juniper.net>, "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>, "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df
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Yes, this will be consistent with the existing framework.

Thanks,
—Satya

From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of "stephane.litkowski@orange.com<mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com>" <stephane.litkowski@orange.com<mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com>>
Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 12:55 AM
To: "jdrake@juniper.net<mailto:jdrake@juniper.net>" <jdrake@juniper.net<mailto:jdrake@juniper.net>>, "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com<mailto:jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>>, "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com<mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>>, "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>, "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org>" <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df

Hi John,

Speaking as doc shepherd for the ac-df draft, I agree that this make sense and this will provide more backward compatibility with the behavior defined in RFC7432.

Brgds,

From: John E Drake [mailto:jdrake@juniper.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 17:17
To: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View); Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp); LITKOWSKI Stephane OBS/OINIS; bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df

Hi,

The HRW DF election draft defines a new extended community, the DF Election Extended Community (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-03#section-7), which contains a DF election type registry.  Why don’t we define a value for AC-based DF election and have the PEs supporting it advertise the extended community w/ that value and either  include a normative reference to the HRW draft or move the extended community and the text describing its usage to the AC-based election draft?

Yours Irrespectively,

John

From: BESS [mailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df

Hi Gunter,

Thanks for the feedback.
About this:
I was wondering why this document, even though being backward compatible with RFC7432, is Informational track, and not standard track.

I just sent an email providing the initial reasoning discussed among the authors. If we still think Standards Track is more appropriate, I think it is ok to change it.

Thank you.
Jorge



From: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com<mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:46 AM
To: "stephane.litkowski@orange.com<mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com>" <stephane.litkowski@orange.com<mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com>>, "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>, "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org>" <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df.authors@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df
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I support progress and publish as RFC.

The document is well written and resolves with a reasonable approach logical failures or human errors, that would otherwise result in significant service problems.
I was wondering why this document, eventhough being backward compatible with RFC7432, is Informational track, and not standard track.

G/

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Subject: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df


    Hello Working Group,



    This email starts a Working Group Last Call on

    draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df-03[1] which is considered mature and

    ready for a final working group review.



    Please read this document if you haven't read the most recent version

    yet, and send your comments to the list, no later than *12th of February*.

    Note that this is *not only* a call for comments on the document; it is

    also a call for support (or not) to publish this document as an Informational

    RFC.



    In addition, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that

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    been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879,

    3669 and 5378 for more details).



    If you are listed as a document Author or Contributor of the draft

    please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware

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    Note that, as of today, no IPR has been disclosed against this document

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    We are **also polling for knowledge of implementations** of part or all

    of what this document specifies. This information is expected as per [2].

    Please inform the mailing list, or the chairs, or only one of the chairs.



    Thank you,

    Stephane & Martin



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