Re: [bess] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast

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Subject: Re: [bess] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast
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Dave,
Lots of thanks!

All,
Adding Scoot Coonan who has posted the IPR Disclosure in question
Please note also that the IPR Disclosure, as posted, seems to have the following typos:

1.       The US Patent number

2.       The title (the USPTO patent search is case-sensitive!)

3.       The name of the inventor.

Regards,
Sasha

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From: David Freedman [mailto:david.freedman@uk.clara.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:47 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
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Subject: Re: [bess] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast

Hi Sasha

Try https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160277210A1/en

Inventor : Wen Lin, John E. Drake, Zhaohui Zhang
Current Assignee Juniper Networks Inc
Original Assignee Juniper Networks Inc
Priority date 2015-03-18
Status:
2015-03-31 US14675202 Pending
2016-09-22 US20160277210A1 Application

Dave.


From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com<mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 at 08:43
To: David Freedman <david.freedman@uk.clara.net<mailto:david.freedman@uk.clara.net>>
Cc: "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>, "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast@ietf.org>" <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: [bess] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast

Dave,
I have tried US14675202, this search also does not yield any patents either.

There are 9 US patents with EVPN in their title and Juniper as their assignee in the USPTO database, but none of them seem to apply.

Regards,
Sasha

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From: David Freedman [mailto:david.freedman@uk.clara.net]
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To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com<mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>>; IETF Secretariat <ietf-ipr@ietf.org<mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org>>; draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [bess] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast

As amusing as it is to confer the forwarding of inter-subnet multicast with the processing of egg yolks,
I suspect the disclosure should have referred to US14675202 and not US4675202

Dave.

From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com<mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 at 08:00
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Subject: Re: [bess] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast


Hi all,

I have looked up the IPR Disclosure Statement (pure curiosity) and it looks a bit strange to me.

In particular, a search for the US Patent  4675202 yields a patent for egg yolk processing<https://patents.google.com/patent/US4675202> that is owned by NESTEC (with priority from 1984).



At the same time, a search<http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=EVPN+INTER-SUBNET+MULTICAST+FORWARDING&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=PTXT> for “EVPN INTER-SUBNET MULTICAST FORWARDING” in the US Patent Office database did not yield any results at all.



My 2c,

Sasha



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Subject: [bess] IPR Disclosure Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast



Dear Wen Lin, Zhaohui (Jeffrey) Zhang, John Drake, Eric C. Rosen, Jorge Rabadan, Ali Sajassi:





An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "EVPN Optimized Inter-Subnet Multicast (OISM) Forwarding"

(draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3245/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Juniper's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast"





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