Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect

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From: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>
To: "Patrice Brissette (pbrisset)" <pbrisset@cisco.com>, Stephane Litkowski <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>, "stephane.litkowski@orange.com" <stephane.litkowski@orange.com>
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Subject: Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect
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Hi Patrice,

I understand that you may not support the draft.
However, it would help if you clarify the reason why:


  *   Is it because you don’t think loops should be protected in the way the draft describes? If so please elaborate.
  *   Or is it that you do support the idea in the draft, but think that it does not deserves its own document
  *   Or maybe none of them? :-)

I think it is important to clarify that on the list.

Thank you.
Jorge


From: "Patrice Brissette (pbrisset)" <pbrisset@cisco.com>
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 2:25 PM
To: Stephane Litkowski <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>, "stephane.litkowski@orange.com" <stephane.litkowski@orange.com>
Cc: "draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect@ietf.org" <draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect@ietf.org>, "bess-chairs@ietf.org" <bess-chairs@ietf.org>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect
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Resent-Date: Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 2:24 PM

Hi,

I do not support that draft. I think it is a very tiny minor update which can incorporated in RFC7432bis.

Regards,
Patrice Brissette, Principal Engineer
Cisco Systems
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From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Stephane Litkowski <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 05:05
To: "stephane.litkowski@orange.com" <stephane.litkowski@orange.com>
Cc: "draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect@ietf.org" <draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect@ietf.org>, "bess-chairs@ietf.org" <bess-chairs@ietf.org>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect

Hi,

The poll has ended.
I haven't seen a lot of support from the various vendor while Jorge has mentioned that there are multiple implementations. Before closing definitely this poll, I would like to let the opportunity to other vendors to raise their voice and support the draft especially if they have implementations.
I will let an additional week.

Stephane


On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 4:29 PM <stephane.litkowski@orange.com<mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com>> wrote:
Hi,

This email begins a two-weeks WG adoption poll for draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect-04 [1]
Please review the draft and post any comments to the BESS working group list.

We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

If you are listed as an author or a contributor of this document, please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR, copying the BESS mailing list. The document won't progress without answers from all the authors and contributors.
Currently, there are no IPR disclosures against this document.

If you are not listed as an author or a contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

This poll for adoption closes on 16th September 2019.

Regards,
Stephane and Matthew

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-snr-bess-evpn-loop-protect/




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