[bess] Re: [Idr] Re: Do we need yet another link bandwidth community?

Satya Mohanty <satya.mohanty@gmail.com> Thu, 25 July 2024 04:03 UTC

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Hi all,

We will be publishing a new version of the draft
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth-07.txt.
We will add the new material presented in the IDR meeting on Monday in the
draft.

Thanks,
--Satya


On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 7:52 PM linchangwang <linchangwang.04414@h3c.com>
wrote:

> Hi ketan,
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> Yes, I agree. Currently, the bandwidth definitions are spread across three different communities,
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> resulting in inconsistent behavior and various restrictions across different address families.
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> Additionally, EVPN's link bandwidth is also restricted to the specific routes' ES link bandwidth.
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> In fact, the application scenarios are similar to those in L3 VPN, L2 VPN, and public network egress scenarios.
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> I hope that from the perspective of the global BGP protocol, these definitions can be made applicable across all address families, with controllable bandwidth units and transmission attributes.
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> Here are the current three definitions:
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> 1.  using a new extended community [RFC4360]  -the link bandwidth
> extended community.
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> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth-07.txt
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> The extended community is optional non-transitive.
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> 2. using a  new type of IPv6 Address Specific Extended Community[RFC5701]- Link Bandwidth Extended Community
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> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-li-idr-link-bandwidth-ext-02.txt
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> The subtypes defined here can be used for both optional transitive
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>    and non-transitive extended community attributes.
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> 3.using a new type of EVPN Extended Community Sub-Types- EVPN Link Bandwidth Extended Community
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> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-21.txt
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> EVPN Link Bandwidth extended community is defined as transitive.
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> A new EVPN Link Bandwidth extended community is defined to signal
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> local ES link bandwidth to ingress PEs.
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> Thanks,
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> Changwang
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> *发件人:* Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com>
> *发送时间:* 2024年7月25日 10:02
> *收件人:* Reshma Das <dreshma@juniper.net>
> *抄送:* idr@ietf. org <idr@ietf.org>;
> draft-li-idr-link-bandwidth-ext@ietf.org; BESS <bess@ietf.org>;
> satya.mohanty@gmail.com; Jeff Haas <jhaas@juniper.net>; Susan Hares <
> shares@ndzh.com>
> *主题:* [Idr] Re: Do we need yet another link bandwidth community?
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> Hi Reshma,
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> Glad to see that we are in agreement to avoid another LBW extcomm.
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> One of the points that I was trying to make is that we don't have a
> "single source of truth" if we look at this more holistically from BGP
> protocol perspective. We have two that have been implemented and deployed
> (even if for different address families).
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> Let's work this out keeping the full and broader picture in mind.
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> Thanks,
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> Ketan
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> On Wed, 24 Jul, 2024, 6:00 pm Reshma Das, <dreshma@juniper.net> wrote:
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> Hi Ketan,
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> I agree we don’t need yet another new draft to carry LBW community.
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> As we know the base draft(draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth) is being revived
> to support both transitive and non-transitive use cases. This was presented
> in Mondays IDR session: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePPCAPOSQfM)
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> It is worth updating the base draft as a single source of truth to
> accommodate all use cases. That provides the most interop.
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> Since this is an effort initiated by IDR chairs, you are more than welcome
> to contribute to this effort as part the IDR WG.
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> Thanks & Regards,
> Reshma Das
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> Juniper Business Use Only
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> *From: *Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 2:57 PM
> *To: *idr@ietf. org <idr@ietf.org>,
> draft-li-idr-link-bandwidth-ext@ietf.org <
> draft-li-idr-link-bandwidth-ext@ietf.org>
> *Cc: *BESS <bess@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[Idr] Do we need yet another link bandwidth community?
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> *[External Email. Be cautious of content]*
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> Hello All,
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> Checking on the need for draft-li-idr-link-bandwidth-ex when we already
> have the EVPN Link Bandwidth Extended Community
> (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb). Is it because of the name containing
> "EVPN" or am I missing something?
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> If it is just the name, I hope we still have the time to change it in
> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb?
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> We already have 2 types (ignoring the transitive/non-transitive variants)
> and I hope we can avoid the need for a third one ...
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> Thanks,
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> Ketan
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