Re: [bess] Suggestion on v4-only/v6-only drafts

[Robert Raszuk <[e-mail]>]

Hi Ketan,

> I believe you are referring to the "BCP" (of Informational) content of
these drafts.

Quite the opposite ... I am referring to the Standards Track content ..
especially in respect to the IDR draft:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mishra-idr-v4-islands-v6-core-4pe/

I do not find anything new in it that would not have already been
standardized. Especially I see lot's of text verbatim copied from RFC8950.

As far as BESS drafts I refrain from commenting as those drafts are IMO
unreadable. If you have an abstract spanning 3 pages and a quote to list
over 30 references that is right there not a good sign.

Thx,
R.


On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 1:43 PM Ketan Talaulikar <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> I believe you are referring to the "BCP" (of Informational) content of
> these drafts. If so, my impression is that the authors wanted to put this
> information together for the benefit of the operator community. I'll let
> them respond.
>
> You can see my comments during the BESS WG adoption poll for one of the
> drafts here [1].
>
> My concern was more the parts that need standardization need to be called
> out very succinctly (in hopefully a short draft) and the rest is all simply
> informational material that can be clubbed together to perhaps make more
> efficient use of reviewers time.
>
> Thanks,
> Ketan
>
> [1]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/Wj-Y_m-t7C0bZ90NM-hmQbOYoPY/
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 5:59 PM Robert Raszuk <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ketan,
>>
>> If you are referring to interconnecting v4 only sites draft I have number
>> of comments:
>>
>> * The draft is not needed at all
>>
>> * we can seamlessly interconnect v4 sites over v6 core using v4 mapped v6
>> addresses
>>
>> * Zero control plane change is required/needed
>>
>> * number of vendors are shipping it
>>
>> Moreover sites even if today speaking v4 only sooner then later will talk
>> also v6. We can not ship a std track document which makes v6 deployment
>> harder or no-op for any site.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022, 11:19 Ketan Talaulikar <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gyan,
>>>
>>> Sharing a couple of suggestions here for your 5 drafts (4 in BESS + 1 in
>>> IDR) as we lost time due to the audio issues:
>>>
>>> (1) put the portions to be standardized (very focussed/small hopefully)
>>> in one single draft and post/share with both IDR and BESS since you are
>>> changing NH encoding (from what I heard?)
>>> (2) all other informational/BCP material could be combined in a single
>>> draft (perhaps the existing BESS WG draft)
>>>
>>> IMHO, that would facilitate an appropriate focussed review of the
>>> content/proposals.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ketan
>>>
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