Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df

<stephane.litkowski@orange.com> Tue, 30 January 2018 15:50 UTC

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Hi,

Speaking as WG chair, I would like to hear the opinion not only from the authors. That would be good that the WG express his feeling on this.
There are multiple local mechanisms (no protocol extension) that are specified as standard track for valid reasons.

Brgds,

From: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) [mailto:jorge.rabadan@nokia.com]
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Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df

Hi Gunter,

Thanks for the feedback.
About this:
I was wondering why this document, even though being backward compatible with RFC7432, is Informational track, and not standard track.

I just sent an email providing the initial reasoning discussed among the authors. If we still think Standards Track is more appropriate, I think it is ok to change it.

Thank you.
Jorge



From: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com<mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>>
Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:46 AM

I support progress and publish as RFC.

The document is well written and resolves with a reasonable approach logical failures or human errors, that would otherwise result in significant service problems.
I was wondering why this document, eventhough being backward compatible with RFC7432, is Informational track, and not standard track.

G/

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Subject: [bess] WG Last Call (including implem status) for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df


    Hello Working Group,



    This email starts a Working Group Last Call on

    draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df-03 [1] which is considered mature and

    ready for a final working group review.



    Please read this document if you haven't read the most recent version

    yet, and send your comments to the list, no later than *12th of February*.

    Note that this is *not only* a call for comments on the document; it is

    also a call for support (or not) to publish this document as an Informational

    RFC.



    In addition, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that

    applies to draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df, to ensure that IPR has

    been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879,

    3669 and 5378 for more details).



    If you are listed as a document Author or Contributor of the draft

    please respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware

    of any relevant IPR.



    Note that, as of today, no IPR has been disclosed against this document

    or its earlier versions.



    We are **also polling for knowledge of implementations** of part or all

    of what this document specifies. This information is expected as per [2].

    Please inform the mailing list, or the chairs, or only one of the chairs.



    Thank you,

    Stephane & Martin



    [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ac-df/

    [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw






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